i did not say EU has collapsed, but it is due to.
kathy has said most of it, there is a BIG BIG BIG difference between EU and the US and A :-D.
USA were founded as a melting pot, everyones culture is welcome and will be altered, that's a fact.
now europe...europe nations cultures have been here for centuries, withstanding all sorts off troubles and after thousand of years of wars, we'll just chuck it away? because...abejaruco, i don't know how you have it in Spain but....European cultures are just fading away, even the "civilization" level is decreasing, like you said it. now...we can all just sit and watch, and all have a Kebab or...we can slowly talk our goverments into shuting the borders and finally starting to put in act all those "social" laws, so...a lawyer who can't get a job..gets one, even though not in his rank.
with this kind of immigration policy going on...there'll be civil wars throuout the EU and i'm afraid abejaruco, that you and me-as the natives, will not stand a very good chance.
we aren't breeding, that's actually good, for once in humanitys history, we are finally self-sufficient and we do not demand more. it actually doesn't get any better than this. well, we are in decline but...slowly it would get into balance, i'm sure of that.
oh and just another thought. they say gipsys are endangered nation (well, they're not actually a nation). the statistics say otherwise. since the WW2 their # in Europe has multiplied by 7!!!! and i know they aren't any better in other countryes, all they do is steal, commit crime, steal, and drain states budgets, oh i almost forgot, and they breed, better than rabbits.