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« on: June 02, 2007, 03:28:11 PM »

I just got a plastic pail feeder that when filled and turned upside down syrup just pours out. Is there a secret to creating a vacuum?
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2007, 04:10:57 PM »

just a bit poor out if your lid is sealed.  i turn mine over a container and use the excess in the humming bird feeder.  it shouldn't be more than about a 1/2 cup if even that.  depends on how full you have it.
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2007, 05:53:22 PM »

Is there a picture of this pail feeder?
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2007, 09:17:19 PM »

http://www.betterbee.com/products.asp?dept=267

here is the general idea.  mine are smaller.  i have 1 gallon size. 
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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2007, 09:18:54 PM »

There is a picture of the unit at Rossmans website. Because I dont make alot of post to this forum it won't let me post a link. Rossmans website is gabees.com its the only pail feeder they sell. As far as only a half cup pouring out. When I finally gave up and poured what was left into a container there was a little less than a gallon. I started with 2.5 gallons. I think it may make a good trash can for the bathroom.
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2007, 09:50:16 PM »

i like the smaller one.  i'm guessing your lid was not on tight.  that one is a little different than mine, but same idea.  the only thing i don't like is that the lid is hard to get off.  i need a bucket lid opener and keep forgetting to buy one.
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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2007, 01:10:55 AM »

You will always loose a little bit until you get a vacuum built up. I just tip it over away from the hive and wait until it stops dripping out. If it never stops dripping then your lid is not sealing correctly, check the seal.

A tip I found with using the pail feeder is to place two sticks or spacers of any kind on top of the frames then place the feeder on the sticks. your inner cover would then go above the feeder. My state inspector told me about this and it seems to work well. I have had no problems doing it this way. the bees "glue" it to the top of the frames wit some wax but it is easy to scrape the little bit of wax off when you are done feeding.


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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2007, 09:04:16 AM »

Use a rubber mallet to set the lid.
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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2007, 10:56:20 AM »

Thanks for the advice. I'll try it again and make sure the lid is on tight.
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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2007, 05:33:33 PM »

Place it upside down over a pan before putting on the hive. This lets out all the x-tra fluid before the displacement  starts to work. No matter how full it is "1/2" or 3/4 or full. flip it over QUICK'About 1/2 pint will come out with a gush then it will stop.
Like someone said make sure the lid is on tight.(yes) rubber mallet.
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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2007, 09:12:39 AM »

I think I figured out the problem. I believe the plug in the lid was too loose to create a vacuum. I siliconed the plug in place and will try it again. Doak where do you live? I grew up in Forest Park.
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« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2007, 04:30:12 PM »

That probably was the problem. Mine have the screen melted right into the plastic. I had gotten some of the plugs and was going to use them but did not think that that got tight enough. So I cut/pulled the screen off and melted then over the hole with a soldering iron. Worked great.
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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2007, 12:22:14 AM »

I was born in HOT-lanta. Moved to Morgan county ( Madison) in 42, less than a year old.
I live about 35 miles North of macon now.
Like I always say,Ga. bred and cornbread fed Smiley
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