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« on: May 07, 2007, 10:45:57 AM »

Somebody sent me this. How many have seen it? I just don't believe it would make a difference as those that don't gas up on the 15th would do it on the 14th or 16th and there would be no difference in the demand. Now if nobody bought ANY petroleum product for a week, that might make a difference, and people would probably see where they can cut down on consumption. Wha-cha-think.....


Pass it on!!! NO GAS...On May 15th 2007 don't pump gas on May 15th... in April 1997, there was a "gas out" conducted nationwide in protest of gas prices. Gasoline prices dropped 30 cents a gallon overnight. On May 15th 2007, all internet users are to not go to a gas station in protest of high gas prices. Gas is now over $3.00 a gallon in most places. There are 73,000,000+ American members currently on the internet network, and the average car takes about 30 to 50 dollars to fill up. If all users did not go to the pump on the 15th, it would take $2,292,000,000.00 (that's almost 3 BILLION) out of the oil companies pockets for just one day, so please do not go to the gas station on May 15th and lets try to put a dent in the Middle Eastern oil industry for at least one day.
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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2007, 11:09:25 AM »

can't hurt to try smiley.  remember the old odd/even gas days?  as my sister in england pointed out...people who pay 4 bucks for a cup of coffee and are living in the best economy in most peoples memory, will pay a lot for gas without pause.  they pay much more per gallon in europe even though they don't drive as much.  now when the economy tanks as it always does, it might make a difference.

people have to hurt before they change their behavior.

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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2007, 11:21:14 AM »

so everyone will fill up on the 14th so they don't have to fill on the 15th. nobody is going to end up using less gas.
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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2007, 03:21:25 PM »

WHAT WHAT WHAT!!! 3$ per gallon?
bring it on!!!! if we had that price, i'd drive a few 18-wheelers on the 15th and fill the tanks up grin

1€ per liter, almost the same, Diesel or Benzin, so that's..4€ per gallon which is almost 6$ per gallon. not to mention, we still have one of the cheapest gas in Europe, wonder what abejaruco will have to say.
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2007, 07:41:04 PM »

Gas is too cheap in the US. If it was $6 a gallon, then maybe we might have more fuel efficient vehicles in the US as opposed to having the worst rated fuel vehicles in any developed country.  In England, you would be nuts to purchase any vehicle that did less than 40mpg. In the US, we think nothing of buying vehicles that struggle to get 15mpg.

Amazingly, when the price rose to nearly $4 a gallon a short while back, the sales of SUV's and trucks decreased. Here we are a short while later and they are hot buys again.
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2007, 07:55:26 PM »

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Gas is too cheap in the US. If it was $6 a gallon, then maybe we might have more fuel efficient vehicles in the US

doesn't help the trucking business much.  ^fuel ^prices ^inflation....and tank the economy.  since england is about the size of the state i live in, the comparison is not to good.  add to that, they have no real interstate highway system so going a few miles is a major endeavor.

that said, more fuel efficient vehicles would be nice.  so would drilling in alaska and off the gulf.  while we try to work around the tree huggers that won't let us develop nuclear, wind, or hydro, we could become more self sufficient by providing more of our own oil....oh wait.....the tree huggers don't want that either.

petroleum products provide us with more than just fuel.  guess the TH's won't get that until they have to squat over a hole and wipe with tree bark.
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2007, 08:15:31 PM »

France produces 70% of its power needs from Nuclear stations.. amazing that the US has not built one in over 30 years.
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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2007, 08:23:16 PM »

we should.  that may be the one thing that france has done right.  at least before this election.  we don't because every time it's brought up, we have to fight the TH crowd.  nuke power is clean and efficient.  you do have to deal with the waste, but if little france can do it, i'm sure we can figure out how.
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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2007, 09:02:51 PM »

it is in the oil co's best interest to keep supply low and prices high. look for another record earnings quarter from exxon-mobil.
my tree hugging self wonders why freight can't be moved by train instead of truck? and what happens with all the nuclear waste?
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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2007, 09:17:24 PM »

what happens with all the nuclear waste?

There are many new methods available of dealing with nuclear waste and also new processes of production.. The nuclear power stations of 40 years is nothing in comparason to the plants they could design and build today. Regardless, this is yet another problem that 400 billion and 5 years would have gone a long way to solving..

.. but who has an interest in solving it when Exxon makes 39 Billion dollars PROFIT.
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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2007, 10:06:40 PM »

yes, profit goes up when price goes up.  the cost of doing business does not change much in the oil business, especially when they are kept from doing more exploration and expansion.  if they make a penny on each dollar of oil sold then when the cost goes up by dollars, so does the number of pennies earned.

no, i'm not an oil company apologist, but neither will i knock a company for making a profit.  especially when the rate of increase in profit for an oil company is less than the rate of increase for microsoft (as an example).

trains are super.  after the train gets somewhere, trucks still have to move stuff.  trains are less reliable than trucks many times.  we have not invested in new rail lines.....again....look to the tree huggers who don't what rail lines built through wilderness land, etc.  and we have built homes and businesses where the tracks would go.  what to do about that?

life is about choices.  if you want to go back to the good old days of candles and carts, so be it.   

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« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2007, 11:10:25 PM »

A lot of the Farmers in Georgia are dropping cotton and peanut acreage and planting more corn. We have a Bio-fuel plant going up here. Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2007, 11:19:36 PM »

And the price of corn has gone up because of ethanol. So now your milk products and meat products are gonna rise also.

http://www.theithacajournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070507/NEWS01/705070311

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Ethanol has a smoggy side

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18425869/
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« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2007, 11:40:32 PM »

it's this decades "we're screwed" story.  we went through 0 population growth and now we don't have enough babies being born.  we went through the coming ice age.  now it's a toss up between global warming and coming oil crisis.  i may get so depressed i'll have to go hug trees.   Cry
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« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2007, 11:55:52 PM »

Don't sweat it. Remember the world ends in 2012.
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« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2007, 05:06:08 AM »

nuclear waste is no biggy, most of it are the low-risk-waste. this are, clothes from daily checks, tools from daily work..nothing big, they just stuff it into those tanks and let it "cool-down" for a few thousand years LOL.
have you ever seen how much waste a coal based thermoplant emmits? i have, a HUGE pile of dust which has to be watered all day long, not to mention, it's also a bit radioactive.

fuel efficient cars, if i make 100km on 15l of diesel, is that efficient?
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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2007, 05:38:19 AM »

i gotta agree with y'all about the problem of the day....whatever it is it will cause the world to end. so far in history there must have been thousands of these crisis situations and yet life goes on.
they are supposed to be building a big railroad cargo terminal in this area of Virginia in order to cut down on truck traffic on the interstates here. but no one wants their land bought up and used for that. this ain't tree huggers but people who are happy living where they are and some of the land has been in their families for generations. can't argue with them....they have a right to live the life they want to.
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« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2007, 10:46:21 AM »

it's this decades "we're screwed" story.  we went through 0 population growth and now we don't have enough babies being born.  we went through the coming ice age.  now it's a toss up between global warming and coming oil crisis.  i may get so depressed i'll have to go hug trees.   Cry
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« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2007, 12:59:33 AM »

Let me check that date on my Mayan calendar.
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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2007, 01:24:01 PM »

Gas is too cheap in the US. If it was $6 a gallon, then maybe we might have more fuel efficient vehicles in the US as opposed to having the worst rated fuel vehicles in any developed country.  In England, you would be nuts to purchase any vehicle that did less than 40mpg. In the US, we think nothing of buying vehicles that struggle to get 15mpg.

Amazingly, when the price rose to nearly $4 a gallon a short while back, the sales of SUV's and trucks decreased. Here we are a short while later and they are hot buys again.

The only reason people complain about the price of gasoline in the U.S. is that they see the prices of it in their faces 100 times a day.  Has anyone noticed that the price of a gallon of milk has risen about 20% in the last 6 months?   How about the prices of groceries going up lately?  Not a word do we hear about that.   

The amount of people driving on this Memorial Day weekend was up about 2.00% from last year.  I have no sympathy for people who cry about the price of fuel and then use it no differently then they ever have.

I think the oil companies are making all their money off of selling it to the Chinese and the Indians whose economies are booming and show no signs of letting up.  China may be heading for a melt-down since they are trying to slow down their economies but so far have been unsuccessful. 

The federal gas tax in the U.S. is 18.4 cents a gallon.  In my state of Wisconsin, the state gets about 46 cents of the pump price for each gallon sold. I believe the oil companies make about 15 cents a gallon, probably less.  The station operator is making about 3 or 5 cents a gallon if he's doing well.  He may even be losing money when folks come and buy with fuel credit cards that offer a certain amount of cents off the price if you use their card. (anyone who knows anything about money will tell you that the last thing you buy with credit is a consumable.)   Who are the crooks here?  At least the oil companies did something to earn their 15 cents...

Think about it.

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