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What type of bee is this queen?
« on: May 01, 2007, 08:29:24 PM »



It's a bit blurry I have a camera that's not too good for macro.  Is it a Carny?

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Re: What type of bee is this queen?
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2007, 09:13:35 PM »
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Re: What type of bee is this queen?
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2007, 09:38:18 PM »
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Re: What type of bee is this queen?
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2007, 10:55:04 PM »
I vote russian because I had one and she was dark like her.

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Re: What type of bee is this queen?
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2007, 10:56:58 PM »
wow...I have one in my wild hive and she is very light.....any ideas? She is not dark at all and is pale in comparison. The hive is gentle, so I wasnt thinking African...but she could be a very distant relative of one of my swarmed colonies....any thoughts? :?
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Re: What type of bee is this queen?
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2007, 11:31:30 PM »
I vote russian because I had one and she was dark like her.


The funny thing is, of my three hives, this particular queen is the only one I can find every time.  In the other two hives, all I see is brood today. So in two of three hives, the queen was present and laying on Saturday.

Could it be a really dark Carniolan?

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Re: What type of bee is this queen?
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2007, 11:38:28 PM »
wow...I have one in my wild hive and she is very light.....any ideas? She is not dark at all and is pale in comparison. The hive is gentle, so I wasnt thinking African...but she could be a very distant relative of one of my swarmed colonies....any thoughts? :?

Carniolans are considered more gentle by some keepers, at least by the one that recommended I start with them...  As I understand, coloration isn't the best way to judge, but that queen is so dark...

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Re: What type of bee is this queen?
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2007, 11:57:42 PM »
All my bees are captured swarms of from Arizona Dee Lusby.I have one queen that is black one queen is Redish Brown  and the rest are golden.I have a bunch of Mutts
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Re: What type of bee is this queen?
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2007, 12:04:55 AM »
All my bees are captured swarms of from Arizona Dee Lusby.I have one queen that is black one queen is Redish Brown  and the rest are golden.I have a bunch of Mutts
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I did a quick search and I found that the Carniolan queens are very dark. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carniolan_honeybee

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Re: What type of bee is this queen?
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2007, 12:36:28 AM »
The packages I got with NWC had dark queens like that, I was a little surprized I almost thought I had been give black german queens but the bees were way too tame for that.  Also the MH queen was dark but not black and the Italian queen was golden.  I understand that Russians queens tend to run to black also.  The causcasian queens I had, once upon a time, were more gray in color.
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Re: What type of bee is this queen?
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2007, 04:52:51 AM »
I guess mine is a mutt too. Probably an Italian Anglo mix breed...shes really gold.
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Re: What type of bee is this queen?
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2007, 09:57:40 AM »
queens appearence has little to do with her daughters, at least i noticed so. whenever i see a queen i see her because she's so light, and i have all Carnis. i'm gonna check my bees today, hopefully i'll take a few pics, i'll try to get the queens.

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Re: What type of bee is this queen?
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2007, 11:11:47 AM »
Mkangelo.  Nice picture.  I would say without a doubt that she is Carniolan.  Mine looks like her too.  Have a wonderful day, great life, great health wishes for all.  Cindi
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Re: What type of bee is this queen?
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2007, 03:34:57 PM »
here ya go, a 100% (maybe a little less) pure Carni queen

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Re: What type of bee is this queen?
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2007, 03:45:13 PM »
here ya go, a 100% (maybe a little less) pure Carni queen

Splended pic trom carnis. It is difficult to find that kind of pic from internet.

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Re: What type of bee is this queen?
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2007, 05:18:16 PM »
here ya go, a 100% (maybe a little less) pure Carni queen


Nice picture.  My next camera will have to have some macro abilities

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Re: What type of bee is this queen?
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2007, 06:25:40 PM »
i took at least a dozen of pics, she just wouldn't cooperate, hehe. this one seems the best, at least to me. anyway, what i wanted to say is that, look the queen is almost yellow! yet, she is indeed a pure Carni and her daughters don't resemble her one bit!

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Re: What type of bee is this queen?
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2007, 10:32:35 AM »
Mici, ain't she a beauty!!!  Beautiful picture.  Have a wonderful day, great life, great health wishes to everyone.  Cindi
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Re: What type of bee is this queen?
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2007, 11:06:45 AM »
It is a carniolan. Beside has darker color, carniolan has also longer but thinner abdoman as compared to Italian. It is true that carniolan is more gently. Be careful they are good swarmer too.
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Re: What type of bee is this queen?
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2007, 03:31:24 PM »
I have two carniolan, and 2 italian queens.  I can not tell the difference by looking at them, they are both very dark like the queen you have.  From what I know about other insect species, and Tarantulas, judging a species by color physical appearance is spotty at best. 

I honestly think that the queens we have may be a bit of both :p  [italian and carniolan, or whatever...  Since I know mine are not instrumentally inseminated, that is no way to concretely guarantee the race of queen and offspring.]

 

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