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« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2007, 02:00:37 PM »

How in the heck can all you guys shake your sugar syrup mixture.  that can be rather heavy. 
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« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2007, 02:14:23 PM »

"How in the heck can all you guys shake your sugar syrup mixture"

Pick up the container.  Move it up and down, or side to side quickly so as to aggitate the contents.   grin

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« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2007, 04:37:26 PM »

My question is what if you make to much, can u put it on a shelf or in the fridge? Then re-heat it up or do the bee not like leftovers?  Or do you just throw out the leftovers? 
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« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2007, 04:49:38 PM »

yes you can use it later, in fact many have pre-prepared syrup, just in case...let say to feed a new swarm or anything, so you don't have to do the mess thing every time.
last year when i winter fed i prepared for a week ahead, but i think it's better to store it in cool place and in bottles, otherwise it might ferment or grow mold, i noticed that if i didn't use the whole bottle up, it grew mold in few days, if it's intact..i think it could go for ages.
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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2007, 04:51:32 PM »

"My question is what if you make to much, can u put it on a shelf or in the fridge? Then re-heat it up or do the bee not like leftovers?  Or do you just throw out the leftovers?"

You certainly can.  Leaving it out will eventually grow mold, or ferment, especially the lower sugar content syrups.  Refridgereation helps to retard that.

You don't necessarily have to heat it up again - but bees do prefer warm syrup over cold

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« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2007, 12:56:23 PM »

For special bees use an herb tea instead of water with the sugar. Bees like many herbs, melissa especially, but lavendar, thyme, sage, chamomile. Probably others, let me know! Some herbs strengthen their immune systems. Steep the herbs in your measured water, then strain and melt in the sugar. Add a pinch of salt, as a preservative. Feed when it reaches about body temperature. I just heard a great tip on frame feeders, add pine needles to the frame feeder so the bees don't drown in it! If you have only a few hives you can make these special syrups for them.
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« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2007, 08:18:29 PM »

>Bees like many herbs

Bees like syrup with smell.  Any smell.
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« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2007, 11:40:04 AM »

So if I got this right, it's 1:1 sugar and water in the spring. Right? When do you feed 2:1? or do you ever feed 2:1?

since I'm installing package bees in 11 days, I'll be medicating with Fumagilin-B  The instructions with the medicine are this:


1.8 Liters water

3.6 Kg sugar

This will produce 4 liters or 1.056 gallons of syrup.


In case any is interested, this mixture requires .17 Ounces or 4.82g of Fumagilin-B
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« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2007, 02:05:03 PM »

"since I'm installing package bees in 11 days, I'll be medicating with Fumagilin-B"

I shouldn't think you need to medicate them at this point.

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« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2007, 02:08:37 PM »

"since I'm installing package bees in 11 days, I'll be medicating with Fumagilin-B"

I shouldn't think you need to medicate them at this point.

Keith

Hi Keith,

I'm told that this is a needed procedure for newly installed packages.  According to the instructions on the medication, this is standard procedure.  "1 gallon of medicated syrup for each package colony"  is what the instructions state.

A coworker of mine who has been beekeeping in Wisconsin for 15 years tells me that Fumagilin-B and Terramycin are standard medications following the installation of a package.

At what point would you recommend these medications? 


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« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2007, 07:51:45 PM »

>At what point would you recommend these medications? 

I do not use either, at all.
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« Reply #31 on: April 02, 2007, 08:15:11 AM »

Mklangelo, many people don't use medications at all.  If the bees aren't sick, why bother?  It's the same as taking pennicilin constantly just to make sure you don't get an infection - where has that got us?  Super bugs that can't be controlled by antibiotics anymore.  Try to find a mentor who isn't chemical-dependent, or just come here for info and advice.  Smiley
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« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2007, 07:25:14 AM »

Mklangelo, many people don't use medications at all.  If the bees aren't sick, why bother?  It's the same as taking pennicilin constantly just to make sure you don't get an infection - where has that got us?  Super bugs that can't be controlled by antibiotics anymore.  Try to find a mentor who isn't chemical-dependent, or just come here for info and advice.  Smiley

He does seem really into the chemicals.  At first he was talking about Terramycin and Fumigilin-B  Now he's talking about Ocycillic acid, which I have no idea where to get and frankly don't feel like paying for all those Chemicals.  I think he likes spouting off the names of chemicals to be honest.   I do think I'd rather be more proactive and vigilant and try to treat things early if they arise.


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« Reply #33 on: April 04, 2007, 09:15:02 AM »

Oxalic acid is only used in the "broodless" period during winter, if you have winter time wherein the queen stops laying.  This treatment can kill the brood and we don't want that.  Best of this day.  Cindi
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« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2007, 07:33:42 PM »

Oxalic acid is only used in the "broodless" period during winter, if you have winter time wherein the queen stops laying.  This treatment can kill the brood and we don't want that.  Best of this day.  Cindi

Why on earth would he recommend that treatment in spring?  I'm starting to wonder about this guy...

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« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2007, 10:56:31 AM »

RE: oxalic, I have been told by good natural beekeepers to do a mite count in fall, if you have more than 20-30, fume with oxalic acid crystals. When the temp is above 50. (Oxalic is also called wood bleach at the hardware store and comes in crystals.)
Here is what I did last fall, I wonder what you all think about this:
In the bottom of an L-shaped copper plumbing tube (Bottom capped) I put 1 tsp of oxalic crystals. The open end of the tube went into the middle of the back of the hive. (The L was upside down by now, with the crystals at the bottom of the vertical leg) I sealed the entrance for 5 minutes while I heated the bottom of the tube with a torch. Fumes went in.
This spring my mite count was down to 3, so far so good, keeping fingers crossed.
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