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« on: February 27, 2007, 06:14:10 PM »

i can't vouch for the stats in this, but the conclusion was cute...and not a bad idea.....  i heard a similar one about Philadelphia. 

INTERESTING STATISTIC
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>    Regardless of where you stand on the issue of the U.S.
>involvement in Iraq, here's a sobering statistic:
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>    There has been a monthly average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq
>theatre of operations during the last 22 months, and a total of 2,112
>deaths. That gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000 soldiers.
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>    The firearm death rate in Washington D.C. is 80.6 per 100,000
>persons for the same period.
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>    That means that you are about 25% more likely to be shot and
>killed in the U.S. Capital than you are in Iraq.
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>    Conclusion:  The U.S. should pull out of Washington
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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2007, 07:13:19 PM »

You know I am shocked to find out that those statistics may be wrong.
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/dc-safer-iraq/

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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2007, 07:41:44 PM »

can't argue the numbers without doing my own research, but your article is about deaths in iraq. my email is about troop deaths.  little different.

my math skills suck.  how about the Philadelphia murder rate?   http://www.nbc10.com/news/6161126/detail.html.

seems like good odds of getting killed there to for the population number.  http://philadelphia.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm

you can do the math for me  smiley
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?

– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2007, 09:55:32 PM »

There were about 152,000 US troops in Iraq as of early October 2005. As of mid-November 2006, there were approximately 152,000 US troops deployed to Iraq.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/iraq_orbat.htm

Pentagon officials say the new plan is aimed at adding manpower to improve security in the short term -- when troop numbers will increase from the current 130,000 to as many as 180,000
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2003/11/06/number_of_troops_in_iraq_to_expand/

Between those two articles the average number is 141,000.
Current number of deaths in Iraq since war began (03/19/03) 3160
Percentage of Casulities .023 % (rounded up)
Casulities per 100,000  2300

Population in DC since 2003 is 554,126 (averaged number)
Current number of murders since 2003   811
Percentage of Casulities      .0015% (rounded up)
Percentage per 100,000 150

The simple fact is as bad as the crime rate is in dc it isn't and has never been 80.6 per 100,000.

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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2007, 10:08:40 PM »

I find it disturbing, appalling, disgusting, sickening, that this is in the humor section  angry  Undecided  Lips Sealed  Sad



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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2007, 10:11:20 PM »

Jerrymac:

I had to scroll down for that punchline. That was great.

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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2007, 10:12:58 PM »

we need some kind of punishment emoticon on here Undecided
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?

– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2007, 10:05:15 AM »

we need some kind of punishment emoticon on here Undecided

Here ya go, 2 choices for you.

 jail

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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2007, 11:46:09 AM »

robo, those are great!  i see we have them now!  smiley   fishhit
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?

– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2007, 05:24:03 PM »

I might actually do the fish one to my friend  fishhit. but then i might get sent here  jail
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