teebo
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« on: February 19, 2007, 02:48:16 PM » |
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for spring built-up can you just feed sugar water, or do you have to feed pollen patties also?  |
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Michael Bush
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2007, 03:37:02 PM » |
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>for spring built-up can you just feed sugar water, or do you have to feed pollen patties also?
They won't build up in the spring unless they have adequate stores of honey and adequate amounts of pollen. If there is a lot of pollen in the hive, it may not make much difference if you feed pollen. If there is not it will make a lot of difference. The same with stores. If they are at all light in stores they will hesitate to start raising a lot of brood. If they have syrup then they get the impression that there is a source of nectar coming in and they are more willing to raise brood.
To distill that down, it makes a lot of difference if they don't have it.
Once there is a source of fresh pollen they tend to ignore the pollen patties.
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pdmattox
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2007, 04:40:20 PM » |
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I use syrup from dadant and feed continusly from the top of the hive to make mine build up fast. They were bringing in their own pollen.
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Finsky
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2007, 12:35:06 AM » |
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I use syrup from dadant and feed continusly from the top of the hive to make mine build up fast. They were bringing in their own pollen.
You live in Florida. Pollen feeding is used when nature give not pollen. Sugar feeding does not help in spring build up if bees have not pollen. Strange thing. Just when one discussion is finished it begins again and same guys use same speech.  And we each have learned nothing. |
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Ivan
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2007, 01:46:16 PM » |
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Can i feed syrup with terramycin or other medesins when there is no brood? Will it help?
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Ivan
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pdmattox
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2007, 03:44:44 PM » |
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Can i feed syrup with terramycin or other medesins when there is no brood? Will it help?
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Ivan
I would say yes but with the terramycin i would mix with powder sugar and sprinkle on one end of the frame rest. |
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Doorman
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2007, 06:09:05 PM » |
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I'm in Oklahoma, and we have pollen pretty much year round. You may also, watch your bees on warm days and see what they are bringing in. You might be surprised. I usually start feeding syrup about 3 weeks after solstice, and my hives are building nicely.
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Some call me a bee farmer, I prefer rancher. What
with millions of tiny livestock foraging the open range, spring and fall round ups. Boy howdy branding their little butts sure is tedious.
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Michael Bush
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2007, 08:25:58 PM » |
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>Can i feed syrup with terramycin
No one recommends syrup as a method of using terramycin anymore. Most of the scientist now recommend you DON'T use terramycin since it will simply mask AFB symptoms anyway and the AFB is now getting resistance BECAUSE of all the use of terramycin as a preventative.
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imabkpr
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2007, 08:52:40 PM » |
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ivan; It will do no good to treat with terramycin if your bees aren't raising brood. Charlie
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Ivan
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2007, 03:22:26 PM » |
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Did any one have any experience with Tylan? How affective is it? How do i mix it?
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Ivan
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pdmattox
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2007, 04:38:35 PM » |
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Did any one have any experience with Tylan? How affective is it? How do i mix it?
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Ivan
I mix Tylan with powderd sugar or buy the premix in a shaker can from dadant. |
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Ivan
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2007, 05:54:04 PM » |
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What ratio of tylan to powder are you using?
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pdmattox
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2007, 05:57:43 PM » |
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1:1 -------equal parts will do the trick.  |
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Ivan
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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2007, 07:29:47 PM » |
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That should kill them pretty fast :shock:Any body got a better idea?
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Brian D. Bray
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« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2007, 10:27:17 PM » |
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I have read some articles that indicate that Tylan stays in the comb etc more than terramycin does.
I don't recall exactly where those articles were, in beekeeping mags or farming mags.
If you want to avoid contaminated comb stay away from chemicals including antibiotics.
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Ivan
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« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2007, 02:12:56 AM » |
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What are some natural medesines i can use against foulbrood?
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Ivan
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« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2007, 02:03:55 PM » |
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I don't have foulbrood but just interested what are some natural medesines i can use to prevent it or treat it.
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Mici
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« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2007, 02:31:05 PM » |
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I don't have foulbrood but just interested what are some natural medesines i can use to prevent it or treat it.
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hmmmm, interesting question. well, i do know the answer is, keep the colonys strong, and i do know that getting the foulbrood is a chain of events BUT, what events? the foulbrood doesn't just fall from the sky now does it? |
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imabkpr
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« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2007, 04:22:42 PM » |
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Mici; Keeping colonies strong doesn't prevent AFB. In fact a strong colony is more apt to get it. Charlie
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Mici
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« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2007, 01:11:20 PM » |
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when i was writting the question i had that baning in my head, but it seemed absurd to me-i had to have had it wrong, so i wrote it anyways.
but the question remains, what chain of events cause it?
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Michael Bush
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« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2007, 03:11:00 PM » |
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>Keeping colonies strong doesn't prevent AFB.
Everything I've read would say it does and that weak colonies tend to get AFB.
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imabkpr
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« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2007, 09:13:48 PM » |
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Your weak colony could have been exposed to the afb from a strong colony with afb entering the weaker colony. I have seen this happen. Charlie
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fredtioga
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« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2007, 08:41:17 PM » |
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What amount of pollen substitute or pollen should I have on hand to jump start an over wintered colony and how much for a new package? (Natural pollen will probably be available when the pkg arrives.)
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