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« on: January 19, 2007, 04:55:19 PM »

I had my first bee dream last night. I was on some island somewhere, trying to build a hive in the water, I had some slug looking thing that was a queen and I was watching it mate and trying to start a hive with one drone and one queen, some old dude was helping me. For some reason we had to catch a ferry off the island it was crazy stuff.

I doint thing im drowning trying to be a beekeeper, and Im not overawed, so I cant figure it out, but it was fun.

I was building this thing with dental floss, trrying to build fames, and this queen kept on being squished by me, on and on it went.  Now who is the resident psychologist?
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2007, 05:12:52 PM »

Now who is the resident psychologist?


That is not my job,but I do recomend a few more beers before bed time. evil
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2007, 06:10:27 PM »

I don't know who the resident psychiatrist is, but I'm sure if I told them what my dreams were like they would lock me up.  grin
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2007, 07:09:36 PM »

did you take melatonin before bed??  if not, try it.  it's fun for the first couple of weeks!

as for the dream, i'm not even going to touch that.....i do admit that a couple of things came to mind, but none to be repeated  evil
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2007, 10:02:01 AM »

kathyp.  Curious why you said Melatonin is fun for the first couple of weeks?  Isn't it supposed to help one sleep (LOL).  Great day.  Cindi
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2007, 12:13:54 PM »

some people, i among them, have very vivid dreams when they first start taking melatonin.  there are pretty cool smiley
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2007, 07:18:31 PM »

Do you take it straight?  Mix it with something?  Where can I get some?  I haven't had a dream in so long I think I've died.
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2007, 07:35:06 PM »

you can buy it in any store that carries supplements.  i get mine from costco.  another thing that's nice is Valerian Root.  i am not an herbal addict, but because i travel so much, i look for ways to turn my days and nights upside down without losing half the trip to jet lag!
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2007, 10:21:48 PM »

Kathyp, I use both the melatonin and valerian root now and then.  The stench of the valerian root almost kills me when I open the bottle though, so I open quick, eat the pill and swallow.

I had to take an SSRI  and a sleeping aid for about 8 months.  This was after the time that I could no longer look after my Father, whose Altzhiemers was getting so bad he was a deep risk to himself and others.  He would run away all the time and be found in places.  I would have to go and get him.  to make a long story short, we had to finally let him go to live in a beautiful home for the Altzheimer patient.  That was one of the saddest times in my life.

I had gone into a terrible and deep depression, somewhere I never want to go again.

During this tenure of the drugs (which by the way made my life once again livable), I do not recall ever having a dream.  This was beyond unusual, because I am an avid dreamer

Once I recovered from this terrible state, I never took the drugs again.  But when I went off these drugs, I had dreams that scared me half to death for about two weeks or so.  They were vivid, terrifying and I am sure they were an accumulation of eight months without dreams.

I still dream, they are good and bad.  I talk alot in my sleep.  If melatonin is good for bringing on wild dreams, the melatonin can keep them, I have enough dreams to deal with without bringing on more (LOL).  Great day. Cindi
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2007, 11:17:43 PM »

mine were not bad at all.  i have long been into programing my dreams.  it's a bit of a trick, but gets easy with practice.  i also always read before going to sleep.  nothing like a little king or koontz to put you to bed smiley
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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2007, 09:23:34 AM »

kathyp, there is nothing like reading a book for awhile before going to sleep.  That makes me drowsy for sure.  You and I have the same taste in books.  King and Koontz are my favourite authors.  I also like John Saul, he writes some pretty weird stuff too.  My absolute preference to reading nowadays is no doubt a good book on bees.  The old timer authors.  They are write like I am right there beside them while they speak.  I love that style.  A.I. Root's ABC and XYZ of Bee Culture was the one that I loved the best and want to get a more current volume.  I think that mine was copyrighted in 1947.  The Spell of the Honeybee by W. Eric Kelsey was beautiful too, I don't own it though, I borrowed it from the bee club library, wish I had a copy.  Great day.  Cindi.
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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2007, 01:28:10 PM »

I haven't had a dream in so long I think I've died.
Perhaps you have apnea. I hadn't dreamed in yrs and was evaluated for apnea(the girls will like this one, My wife said I snored too much!). I had real bad apnea. I began to use the C-PAP machine. I sleep better and began to dream again. No meds needed as to date(other than red wine)
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2007, 09:05:13 PM »

Bingo!  I have sleep apnea and narcolepsy.  I can sleep for days.  And yes, I take or have remedies for both.
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2007, 10:26:55 PM »

I had my first bee dream last night. I was on some island somewhere, trying to build a hive in the water, I had some slug looking thing that was a queen and I

So today I open up the hive and what do I find. a frame, dark in colour and slightly warped, some emerging brood on it, but mostly empty. Some drone cells obviously. On this frame was a horizontal cell, built ontop of the drawn cells,  approx one inch long, about half the size of your little finger, I scrape it off, and there is a white slug type thing in it, obviously larvae of some sort, perhaps a drone, perhaps a queen. There is no reason for it to be a queen cell, lots of emerging brood, lots of room, the bottom of the three supers is making so much noise its crazy, so I definately still have an active queen.

Its just so spooky.

I just had a look for what I scraped off, of couorse I cant find it in the long grass. grr!
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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2007, 11:11:51 PM »

On the topic of dreams, dreams for me are a rarity.  Nightmares, not too uncommon but dreams, maybe once every few months.  I have been known to wake up, sit up, and "day dream" that I'm getting ready for school, lol.
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« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2007, 12:38:46 AM »

apis629,

learn to program your dreams.  you can start by reading something you like before turning out the light, then continue the story in your head as you fall asleep. you must visualize your story.  when you are better at it, you can start your own story and finish it in a dream.  when you are very practiced, you can control all that you dream.  you can solve problems without losing sleep, or have a pleasant nights sleep with a great movie running in your head.

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« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2007, 12:57:38 AM »

My problem is my mind won't shut down. I can sit here until I am droopy eyed, go to bed, and lay there with everything going through my mind. I mean everything. My mind is like sitting in a crowded restaurant. Most dreams I don't remember. There is no way to program the things cause my mind won't sit still. The best I do is sometimes in some dreams I don't like the way it is headed and I tell myself to wake up. Haven't had a night mare in years.
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« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2007, 07:30:45 AM »

My problem is my mind won't shut down. I can sit here until I am droopy eyed, go to bed, and lay there with everything going through my mind. I mean everything.

Jerry, try getting out of your chamoflaged rocking chair, take off your night-vision glasses, putting down the 50 calibar tank buster and and do a double shot of NyQuil  tongue We all should get a good nights sleep. Let the electric fence and landmines take care of the house, man I'd hate your electric bill  grin

I've honestly never had a BEE DREAM, I dream often and remember many, but nothing comes to mind. I have had interesting dreams about the Voice Chat peope in the forum (our nightly gang who share hours every day being friendly, playing online games and learning al about different countrie and cultures - we even talk bees often too) here is an interesting one - makes no sense except a TV Show I watched probably triggered a lot of it.

My wife and I were flying over Paris and a reinactment of the French Revolution was going on below us a few hundred feet below. I could see it was a park like atmosphere where stands and kiosks were setup for food and games.

I opened a laptop PC and held down the transmit key and called PDMattox (Dallas) and said a few things I can't recall, but we landed the ballon, I went to a kiosk where an Asian man was renting swords for the reinactment but they were $5 each with a $50 deposit. I scrambled to find the cash, trying to do the rate of currency exchange and finally got the swords which were plastic painted gold and badly chipped and worn.

I returned to the ballon, I could hear others still talking on the Voice Chat and I started climbing back into the basket, just as I did, my wife took off and I fell out just as it lifted off and then I woke up hearing the chat voices slowly be swallowed by the sounds of the war reinactors.

Dreams are cool or horrifying, sometime extremely funny - I've woke many times laughing at stuff that obviously breeched my dream/waking world.
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« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2007, 10:09:01 AM »

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Jerry, try getting out of your chamoflaged rocking chair, take off your night-vision glasses, putting down the 50 calibar tank buster and and do a double shot of NyQuil   We all should get a good nights sleep. Let the electric fence and landmines take care of the house, man I'd hate your electric bill 
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jerrymac, you are a perfect candidate for Valerian root.  it will not sedate you.  you won't miss the invasion, but it will help you unwind before bed. 

my mind spins a lot.  not through problems and i'm not stressed.  i just always seem to have a question that needs answering. smiley  that's one of the reasons i read before bed.  it pulls the mind off "stuff" and causes you to focus on one thing.  dream programing does the same thing.  it's the same concept as counting sheep.  people think it's because you'll get bored and fall asleep. in reality, it's to focus your mind on something other than the chaos of life!
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« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2007, 10:45:29 AM »

Jerry, try getting out of your chamoflaged rocking chair, take off your night-vision glasses, putting down the 50 calibar tank buster and and do a double shot of NyQuil  tongue We all should get a good nights sleep. Let the electric fence and landmines take care of the house, man I'd hate your electric bill  grin

Electric fence  huh Got to get me one of those.

NyQuil, and all that other stuff that is suppose to cause drowsiness actually keeps me awake. No really it does. Sometimes when the rhinovirus is really running rampant I hit it with good old NQ. My body and face feel a lot better but I sure don't get any sleep. I never understood what people meant by drinking coffee to stay awake. I could drink a whole pot of it and go to sleep.
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« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2007, 11:04:05 AM »

I had a nasty head cold 2 weeks ago, bought NyQuil and knew as soon as I tasted it that they took all the good stuff out. First, the booze then everything else except Tylenol and a cough suppressant - yup, 2 ingredients.

I just asked a coworker to pick me up a bottles of NAVY NYQUIL which tastes like tar and Zambuca (dark green only version) and has a nice kick to it.

Tonight (hopefully) a good night's sleep - something I've had a tough time with lately. No matter what time I go to bed, I'm getting up at 4:30am and hour an a have before my alarm - ugh. At least with the Navy NyQuil (the better not have touched this magical elixor) if I get up at 4:30 I can slam a shot and let the alarm wake me - half faced or not  shocked

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« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2007, 11:13:16 AM »

I haven't had any in a long time. Are you telling me that nyquil isn't nyquil anymore? no more

coughing
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so you can rest medicine?  shocked
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« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2007, 12:51:53 PM »

benadryl.  clears the head.  puts you to sleep.  doesn't shoot your BP up.  smiley

electric fence:  no protection.  rubber gloves and rubber handled cutters and you are through.  virtual fence with alarms and cameras much better!  gives warning so that you can protect yourself.
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« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2007, 01:02:33 PM »

benadryl.  clears the head.  puts you to sleep.  doesn't shoot your BP up.  smiley

If it has a decongestant it will probably keep me awake. Never tried the stuff.

  virtual fence with alarms and cameras much better!  gives warning so that you can protect yourself.

Too much of that stuff lowers your awareness perceptions. You begin to depend on this stuff and lose the ability to sense it. Like depending on the weather man to tell you what is going on one loses the ability to "feel" what the weather will be.
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just use it an night.  can't be everywhere at once!

good dog helps too.

benadryl is an antihistamine.  works well for most.  there are some other decongestants that ought not to keep you awake or put you to sleep.  i rarely get sick, so i just keep the benadryl around.  has many uses.
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« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2007, 01:52:08 PM »

Love the bee dreams!  They mostly occur when I am thinking about the bees a lot or planning some bee related project.  The spring is the usual time those start because I work with them a lot.  There is usually some funky hive in a barn or roof or something, nothing realistic, but no slugs queens, floss hives, or tropical beaches either.  If I dream of a tropical island, I'd rather not have bees involved.... grin

Although I did have a dream the other night that I kept a 4ft alligator in my aquarium that kept escaping (until I duct taped it all up and was going to get rid of it).  And I haven't kept an aquarium for several years now, and never an alligator....

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« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2007, 02:05:56 PM »

Kathy:

Remember, Jerry knows that it is ALWAYS day-time and night-time somewhere on Earth - lol. How can you sleep with that on your mind  grin

Jerry: No, NyQuil isn't NyQuil anymore. There is a competitor out there with a few more ingredients, next time to the drugstore and I'll find out what - but I was highly disappointed.

P.S. The Navy doesn't make the NAVY NYQUIL anymore either - ugh. So back to Goldschlaauger and Percocet jello shots (usually 2 will do) boy... I need a louder alarm clock  rolleyes

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« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2007, 02:55:56 PM »

On the earlier note of "programing dreams" by reading something interesting.....do you know what I've been reading?  Cisco Certified Network Associate study guides (942 pages), the curriculum itself, and a book about routing and routed protocols. 
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« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2007, 11:40:47 PM »

I had my first bee dream last night. I was on some island somewhere, trying to build a hive in the water, I had some slug looking thing that was a queen and I

So today I open up the hive and what do I find. a frame, dark in colour and slightly warped, some emerging brood on it, but mostly empty. Some drone cells obviously. On this frame was a horizontal cell, built ontop of the drawn cells,  approx one inch long, about half the size of your little finger, I scrape it off, and there is a white slug type thing in it, obviously larvae of some sort, perhaps a drone, perhaps a queen. There is no reason for it to be a queen cell, lots of emerging brood, lots of room, the bottom of the three supers is making so much noise its crazy, so I definately still have an active queen.

Its just so spooky.

I just had a look for what I scraped off, of couorse I cant find it in the long grass. grr!

Mick, the only way that I think you can tell if you have an active queen is if you see eggs.  That means that she was present within 3 days.  If you are thinking that you have a queenright hive because you see emerging brood is not correct.

If you see that you have emerging brood, you know that you had a queen lay an egg 21 days (or so) ago.  To know that you have an active queen, there must be eggs present.  I do not think that I am wrong on this.  Maybe more answers will come.

You saw a queen cell, that is no doubt in my mind. Why it is horizontal I don't get that, the queen cells are usually hanging down off the face of the comb or the bottombar.  But if the cell was the size of the baby finger, it must be queen cell.

You must know what a queen cell looks like.  If you don't know, go on Michael Bush's site and look at one.  I am sure that you do know though. 

My best advice to you Mick, is that you go and look in your hive to see if you can see eggs.  If you don't see eggs, then your colony is probably queenless.

About the noise in the colony being really loud.  You said that it was so loud it was crazy.  That is another absolute sign of a queenless colony.  The colony makes a very different sound when the queen is not there.  It has been described as a roaring sound.

You must check for eggs Mick.  This is critical.  That is my best advice that I can give to you.  When you do your inspection, you do not need to look for the queen.  Eggs, and eggs and eggs, that is your quest.  If you see eggs, the colony is probably queenright.   Hope this may have clarified something for you.  Great day.  Cindi
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