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Offline swflcpl

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Hive building on eave
« on: May 21, 2015, 09:24:00 AM »
Doing this for experience as it seemed like it would be relatively easy, although a long process. No vac here and watched a video from JP that used liberal smoke without his vac to run them off so the comb could be taken off easier.





Was thinking of setting up the first hive box on top of the ladder directly under this and cutting them off going down the ladder to rubber band them into frames and coming back up to put the frame in the box, it being there so the bees might fall into it if they do fall.

Any other ideas?

Apparently this is about a months worth of activity.

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Re: Hive building on eave
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2015, 09:46:18 AM »
swflcpl...
     Do you have any idea how long the bees have been there for ?




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Re: Hive building on eave
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2015, 09:53:06 AM »


Apparently this is about a months worth of activity.

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Re: Hive building on eave
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2015, 10:21:38 AM »
   You may run into a lot of soft comb.and at will not be easy to do a cut out.(especially if it is only a month old)
You may have to treat them like a swarm if the comb is too soft.




Apparently this is about a months worth of activity.
IMHO

I still don't understand your time line you have and s on the end of month .To me that means multiple months.

If I was doing this in Florida I would only put the  brood comb in the frames and the honeycomb in my 5 gallon pail .
I do hope this helps you out.
I do hope you have a queen catcher ( hair clip style)
     

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Re: Hive building on eave
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2015, 02:24:44 PM »
Unfortunately I don't have a queen catcher. Is that so they don't abscond or what?

Sorry I missed an apostrophe. "A month's worth"

Plan on separating honeycomb out and just framing as much brood as possible.

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Re: Hive building on eave
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2015, 11:39:25 PM »
these are a few reasons for this
1.when you have the queen you control the hive
2.I would use as little smoke as possible (until I caught the queen)/so the queen does not run in the cracks of the building where you cannot catcher her
3.everything I read from the southern part of the United States
honey bees like to apostrophe in late spring and summer on cutouts and/or  swarms  . Keep the queen caged up for 3 to 5 days help stop them from leaving.


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Re: Hive building on eave
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2015, 06:55:50 AM »
This is the perfect situation to have a bee vacuum.

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« Last Edit: May 22, 2015, 07:14:56 AM by Jim 134 »
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Re: Hive building on eave
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2015, 09:02:33 AM »
no queen cace how about queen excluder? when i forget the excluder thet leave

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Re: Hive building on eave
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2015, 08:02:41 PM »
No excluders either. We'll have to see.

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Re: Hive building on eave
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2015, 12:51:02 AM »
No vacuum, no queen catcher, no excluder...  Do you have a hive to put them in if you do catch them? 

You could use my vac, but I'm way up in Largo. 

I doubt that they have much in the way of brood, and even less honey.  A nuc might be the best for them.

Have fun!

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Re: Hive building on eave
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2015, 08:17:53 AM »
Lots of brood and a couple of the smaller outer comb were full of uncapped nectar/honey. Was 10 frames worth not putting in almost any honey.

What it looked like in the morning


As the morning went on


Before lunch, hoping the queen was in the box


After lunch we felt she most definitely was not in the boxes


Brushed and snowplowed (with a cardboard piece) as many big chunks as possible down into the box. And finally got her


And what they looked like 5 hours later at 7 pm



They also looked exactly like that at 9 when I hoisted them down off that ladder and into my truck. Put this box over I had that was nearly perfect size


Got them home, unboxed them and put them down onto their cinder block stand as soon as I got home.

Thanks for the offer of the vac though Sun

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Re: Hive building on eave
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2015, 12:30:56 PM »
Good job.  Now you have to keep them from absconding. 
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Re: Hive building on eave
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2015, 01:10:57 PM »
Thanks. Just have to hope

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Re: Hive building on eave
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2015, 04:39:05 PM »
      Hopefully the young brood will anchor them expescially since it is the same fairmoans(sp) as the queen. :wink:
I do hope you had a good time.

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 John F. Kennedy
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