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Author Topic: Where can i find a good carni queen  (Read 2033 times)
tom
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« on: June 06, 2006, 05:18:24 PM »

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   I am in search for a good carniolan queen i have two and thier brood is a dakr grey with yelloew bands and they are hybrids they are gentle and very nice to look at but i don't want to pay alot of money for queens that are A I but bred natural with thier own kind of drones now i know all bees are crossed and it is going to be hard but if anyone knows where i can get a good carni queen that is close to pure please let me know and if they have a website can you please give me that also i love dark bees that are gentle and good honey producers.

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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2006, 06:22:09 PM »

Why is it that every time I see the term Carni Queen I think of Ferris Wheels, Roller Coasters, and the Bearded Lady?

But to answer your question, try searching out the various queen suppliers that advertise in ABJ of Bee Culture.  A little Googling can be very rewarding.  As long as it is not Ogling.
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2006, 11:12:49 PM »

My Caucasian bees are dark bees and are incredibly gentle. Dealer is in Mississippi...
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2006, 10:58:26 AM »

Try Dan Conlon.  All round great guy, and very good at answering e-mails and VM's on a timely basis.

http://www.warmcolorsapiary.com/Bees.asp
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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2006, 11:21:34 AM »

Not sure where you are in VA. If you're even remotely close to Williamsport MD, a gentleman named Bill Troup sells them. He's also the state inspector for most of western MD. Phone # 301 223-9662
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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2006, 11:31:44 AM »

A local commercial beekeeper buys his from Kona Queens in Hawaii but there may be a minimum order size. He swears by their production and gentelness.
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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2006, 03:45:37 PM »

Thanks

   Youi guy's are great and i am glad for all of your help i will be contacting these folks today to see if i can have any luck once again thank you all.

Tom
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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2006, 05:11:31 PM »

Want real carniolan may be try this

http://www.carniolan.com/uk/essaimage-uk.htm
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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2006, 07:40:16 PM »

If some one feel that carniolan is good only way is to try how good.

There are so many stocks inside races and they will be mixed soon in free mating.
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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2006, 11:22:19 PM »

Mr. Finsky

   I know that they all will end up mixed if they are not requeened every couple of years. My carniolans are crossed with cordovans and they are a good bee i have no problem with them i just wanted to try to get as close to the pure breed as i can my bees have the traits of both and are very gentle.

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« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2006, 12:12:18 AM »

I had pure Carniolans from Slovenia 10 years. Too many years they were awfull to swarm.
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« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2006, 02:25:33 PM »

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Beneficial

    * considered to be gentle and non-aggressive
    * can be kept in populated areas.
    * sense of orientation considered better than the Italian honeybee race
    * less drifting of bees from one hive to a neighboring hive
    * when compared to the Italian race, they are not as prone to rob honey
    * able to overwinter in smaller numbers of winter bees
    * able to quickly adapt to changes in the environment
    * better for areas with long winters
    * rhythm of brood production very steep
    * small use of propolis
    * resistant to brood diseases
    * for areas with strong spring nectar flow

Not Beneficial

    * more prone to swarming
    * low ability to produce wax and build comb (not uniformly accepted as fact)
    * low ability to thrive in hot summer weather


The above may explain Finky's swarming problems with the Carnis. Smiley


The quote above was taken from : Carniolan Honeybee - Wikipedia
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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2006, 08:13:52 PM »

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I had pure Carniolans from Slovenia 10 years. Too many years they were awfull to swarm.


Finski:

I have been looking around for a race of bees to start in the spring.  I looked into Carniolans.  I came across an article posted on this list about the New World Carniolans.  http://beemaster.com/beebbs/viewtopic.php?t=1687&highlight=races+bees  Both emails of intrest were posted by Pardee.  January 22 & 24 2005.  

I also traced down STRACHAN APIARIES, INC.
2522 Tierra Buena Rd.
Yuba City, CA. 95993
phone: 530-674-3881
fax: 530-674-5802
http://www.strachanbees.com/index.html

I went to Strachans web site and read all of it including the Ohio State University link.  I also talked to them on the phone and have sent email to them.  I am lucky they are about an hour and a half's drive South of me.  It seems worth a try.  I will be starting three hives in the spring.  I will have to order queens (3) the first of next month for delivery in late April.  I will start my nucs as early as I can get them, as our first bloom is Manzanita in late February.  I will requeen with the NWC queens around the first of May.  That is when we will see what happens.

Just a little information which I thought might be of intrest to you.


- new world carniolan -
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