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« on: May 17, 2006, 09:07:38 PM »

OK.. This is kind of a long story but please be patient because I really need some advice.

I packaged a new hive one month ago – Hive #1  (Marked Queen)  (2 deeps)
I packaged another hive one week ago – Hive #2  (Queen not marked)  (2 mediums)
I packaged a top bar hive one week ago – Hive #3  (Queen not marked)  (topbar)

Hive #1 has had poor brood pattern and since week one, I have not been able to find the MARKED queen.

4 days after installing the packages for hives #2 & #3, I returned to release the queens. The release went well for #3 (topbar) but I never saw where the queen went for hive #2. When I peeled back the screen, she was there one second and gone the next. I waited right there to see if maybe she flew and would come back to me. She did not return so I assume she fell or flew into the hive. I closed it up and left.

Today, I gave each hive a decent inspection and finally found a queen in hive #1 but it was not my marked queen. It was a great big pretty UNMARKED queen and she was just a laying. Brood pattern looks much better but I did find a small, peanut looking cell halfway down one frame. I also found a queen 3 frames over but it could have been the same one if she was fast.

I could find no queens in hives #2 or #3 but I am not good and finding them yet anyway…

I am still not real sure how to inspect the topbar so I will just give it a while longer before I go in much.

OK…  Questions..
Where did this queen come from that now resides in hive#1?
Is it possible she was the queen from hive #2 or #3 and just flew in and took over?
How long should I wait before re-queening hives 2 or 3.
Could hive #1 have raised a new queen in one month?
What about the small peanut cell halfway down the frame?
Can a hive have 2 queens?

I thought 3 hives would not be too much to handle as a beginner but now I am not too sure.

Can anyone help with some answers?Huh

Thanks!!!!!!
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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2006, 01:46:26 AM »

You asked:
>Where did this queen come from that now resides in hive#1?  
As stated below from hive 2.

>Is it possible she was the queen from hive #2 or #3 and just flew in and took over?
 Exactly.

>How long should I wait before re-queening hives 2 or 3.  
Hive 2 can be corrected with a frame of brood and eggs from hive 1--give them the one with the queen cell.

>Could hive #1 have raised a new queen in one month?
Yes, but most likely she wouldn't be laying yet but be just recently hatched.

>What about the small peanut cell halfway down the frame?
An emergency supercedure cell.

>Can a hive have 2 queens?
Yes, usually as an intended management technic where a double screen is used.  Two loose queens occassionally happens during supercedure.
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