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Queen cells
« on: March 31, 2015, 05:17:43 PM »
Did I miss something? A week ago yesterday I removed the Queen and several frames of bees and capped brood. I left as many frames with eggs and young brood. Today I found several capped Queen cells. This is day 8, right? I found one cell with a larvae that appeared to be only 2 to 3 days old. is this unusual? shouldn't all the eggs I left already be hatched and sealed? d2

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Re: Queen cells
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2015, 12:45:41 AM »
The fact that they made queen cells tells me there was no queen, OR, they had replaced their OLD queen with a new one, and thats the one YOU took, so the OLD queen is still in there..  I have on numerous occasions found the old momma queen laying in the same hive as her daughter.
   So, you can HOPE you were mistaken, and that the three day old egg molted into a larvae, and it was 5 days old instead of two or three.
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Re: Queen cells
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2015, 09:36:22 AM »
>Did I miss something? A week ago yesterday I removed the Queen and several frames of bees and capped brood. I left as many frames with eggs and young brood. Today I found several capped Queen cells. This is day 8, right? I found one cell with a larvae that appeared to be only 2 to 3 days old. is this unusual? shouldn't all the eggs I left already be hatched and sealed?

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Well, if you do the math there could be larvae that are about to be capped (worker cells typically are capped on day 9).  I assume by "2 to 3 days old" you mean after they hatched (which happens on day 4) so that would push your estimate to 6 to 7 days old from when they were laid.  An egg on the frame you put in eight days ago would be 8 days (one day older than your estimate).

Now assuming it's smaller than that (like recently hatched larvae) then perhaps you have some laying workers...
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Re: Queen cells
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2015, 05:05:07 PM »
The box in ? has 3 capped  Queen cells now. Now I will leave them be for a couple weeks. If everything goes well I will have 4 colonies from one. May even get a box of honey from this colony. Most all the worker bees returned to it. But that left plenty of house bees and capped brood in the splits. The mother hive was 4 mediums boiling over with bees. They would have swarmed for sure and could still do it. I'm pleased with the results, so far. d2

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Re: Queen cells
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2015, 08:38:54 PM »
The box in ? has 3 capped  Queen cells now. Now I will leave them be for a couple weeks. If everything goes well I will have 4 colonies from one. May even get a box of honey from this colony. Most all the worker bees returned to it. But that left plenty of house bees and capped brood in the splits. The mother hive was 4 mediums boiling over with bees. They would have swarmed for sure and could still do it. I'm pleased with the results, so far. d2

What do you mean, 4 from one? Did you split them before and have 3? Why not divy up those cells and have more than 4?

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Re: Queen cells
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2015, 10:46:17 PM »
     Not meaning to cut you off short, These 3 cells that are in the mother hive, {the one I took the splits from} are on plastic foundation all on the same frame. Go ahead and cut the cells off if you like, I am satisfied with what I have. d2

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Re: Queen cells
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2015, 12:57:00 AM »
No problem, cut me off anytime.  I was just thinking, That's what I did last split. But if that's all you want, great. I wouldn't risk cutting off plastic anyway. Hope you much success with it.

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Re: Queen cells
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2015, 03:34:36 PM »
Well, one out of three isn't bad, so far. the jury is still out on the other two. this one showed up in the mother hive. I know she was not in there all along because there was no eggs or brood for the given time. d2

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Re: Queen cells
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2015, 06:11:55 PM »
As I said in another post. I put a frame of eggs/brood in what I believe to be a queen less nuc. If they make queen cells, what would be the day to put a cage over the cells? Provided they make more than one. d2

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Re: Queen cells
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2015, 09:35:06 PM »
As I said in another post. I put a frame of eggs/brood in what I believe to be a queen less nuc. If they make queen cells, what would be the day to put a cage over the cells? Provided they make more than one. d2

My opinion would be 10-11 days after that day you did that.

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Re: Queen cells
« Reply #10 on: Today at 07:57:03 AM »
That is cutting it too close, you may have just missed the first hatching queen. You have 3 days as eggs then the bees are feeding the larvae royal jelly for 3 days. Some time on the 3rd day they stop feeding them royal jelly. So, if they picked a larvae that was 6 days old and the temperature was just right the whole time she could hatch out on the 15th day and you would have lost all of the other queens.
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Re: Queen cells
« Reply #11 on: Today at 01:11:35 PM »
I had planned on checking them Friday or Sat. If they are fully capped on that day I will go ahead and put the safty cages one. I haven't ordered my #8 mesh wire yet. I had a couple cricket pails that were shot except for the wire. I am assembling the cages today. Will keep y'all updated. d2