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Offline Stan

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Woodware interchangeability question
« on: February 15, 2006, 09:03:03 AM »
Woodware I am a novice and want to  set up some hives but puzzled about woodware.

Is there any interchangeability between various manufacturers hive woodware ?

Is it possible to use a super or cover, etc. from Mann Lake with a Dadant or Kelly etc

Thanks, Stan


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Woodware interchangeability question
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2006, 10:59:31 AM »
All equipment is "almost" perfectly compatible, but when it
comes to the bee space between frames in stacked supers
and brood chambers, this is where things start to fall apart.

The only "problem" caused by these incompatibilities is
bridge comb, which is easy enough to scrape off when you
find it.  I try to avoid it by making my own boxes, and being
very picky about frame top-bar thicknesses when buying

In a worst-case scenario, one could stack a super with
"top space", and the bottoms of the frames even with
the bottom edge of the super, atop a super with "bottom
space", where the top surface of the top bars are even
with the top edge of the super, and crush a whole lot of
bees in doing so.

If you were to e-mail kim@beeculture.com, and ask for the
most recent "Woodenware Review" article, he'd send you
a rundown of exactly what frames are truly compatible with
what boxes, and what boxes, when stacked, can cause problems,
vendor by vendor.

The lack of standardization in the area of "bee space" is
a real travesty, but my attempts to get anyone interested in
forming a standards committee have not resulted in any
interest, as most beekeepers simply accept being "locked in"
to a single vendor, or ignore the problems.

Offline Stan

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Woodware interchangeability question
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2006, 04:02:16 AM »
Thanks very much,   I will contact Kim for the article.


Offline Jack Parr

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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2006, 07:28:55 AM »
I have observed that  little anomoly of bee space between stacked boxes.

I don't recall reading anything about the subject on these boards or in the several " books on bees " that I have read and I wondered about that.

In my short beekeeping experience I have not had too much burr comb build up between stacked supers but there is some nevertheless. A recent hive inspection had me destroying some comb, and brood, that was built between the upper and lower boxes around a couple of frames near the brood nest. However that was only in one box/hive outta four. Could it be that this 3/4 " or so, space is left to accomodate the queen excluder, 3/8 " above and below :?:

Now that the subject has been brought up we'll have something more to worry about. :twisted: Maybe we should contact FEMA about the prob :idea:  :lol:

Next, the TBH proponents will be chiming in with alternative solutions.  :?: