Welcome, Guest

Author Topic: Test for Africanized bees?  (Read 1433 times)

Offline Clem

  • New Bee
  • *
  • Posts: 9
  • Gender: Male
Test for Africanized bees?
« on: February 03, 2014, 11:47:09 PM »
I was told that if you trap or capture a swarm in Alabama you must have the bees checked by the state to determine if you have Africanized bees, I hadn't heard or read anything about this. Does anyone have any info or experience with this?

Offline 10framer

  • Super Bee
  • *****
  • Posts: 1673
Re: Test for Africanized bees?
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2014, 12:36:11 AM »
i haven't heard that but i've caught 3 swarms in alabama that i highly suspect were africanized.  one was so bad i destroyed them and i'll put up with some fairly rough bees.

Offline GSF

  • Super Bee
  • *****
  • Posts: 2289
  • Gender: Male
Re: Test for Africanized bees?
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2014, 06:18:41 AM »
Hey Clem,

Here's the number to the ag office that handles bees in Alabama; 1-800-642-7761, 334-270-7225. If you talk to someone let us know what you find out.

"Life is hard, It's even harder when you're stupid."

John Wayne

Offline Michael Bush

  • Universal Bee
  • *******
  • Posts: 14540
  • Gender: Male
    • bushfarms.com
Re: Test for Africanized bees?
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2014, 07:38:30 AM »
The least conclusive is the FABIS.  None of the tests for AHB are conclusive.  I think the best test is the "kick" test... if you kick the hive and the pour out after you, you don't want to keep those...
Michael Bush
My website:  bushfarms.com/bees.htm en espanol: bushfarms.com/es_bees.htm
My book:  ThePracticalBeekeeper.com
-------------------
"Everything works if you let it."--Rick Nielsen

Offline sawdstmakr

  • Galactic Bee
  • ******
  • Posts: 3809
  • Gender: Male
Re: Test for Africanized bees?
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2014, 12:51:14 PM »
The least conclusive is the FABIS.  None of the tests for AHB are conclusive.  I think the best test is the "kick" test... if you kick the hive and the pour out after you, you don't want to keep those...

Note to self, "Don't do this unless fully suited".  :-D
Jim
"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed.  If you do read the newspaper you are misinformed."--Mark Twain

Online richter1978

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 108
Re: Test for Africanized bees?
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2014, 01:47:28 PM »
I did a cutout last spring.  At first I could work them in shorts and a T shirt.  By July they were so aggressive I had to move them to a friends.  Anyway, I called the inspector and he came to take a sample to have tested.  He told me after the inspection and queen pinching that they were a 10 out of 10 for defensiveness.  They tested to be European.  Definitely the kick test applied to these!

Offline tefer2

  • Super Bee
  • *****
  • Posts: 2313
  • Gender: Male
Re: Test for Africanized bees?
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2014, 02:05:01 PM »
Note to self, have a get away vehicle running close by. :-D

Offline capt44

  • Field Bee
  • ***
  • Posts: 617
  • Gender: Male
    • RV BEES
Re: Test for Africanized bees?
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2014, 06:43:50 PM »
I had a swarm of bees mean'ern who thought it and the State Inspector came by and took samples from a Hive in my bee yard at home and another from a bee yard I have 3 miles away.
He took the samples to Little Rock and did 2 test.
They did the FABIS Test and if they looked suspicious they did a DNA test.
Both hives came back negative.
I re-queened both hives and in a few weeks they had calmed way down.
We have Africanized Bees in South Arkansas and they are spreading North.
They advised me not to accept any feral bees in southwest Arkansas.
Richard Vardaman (capt44)

Offline PLAN-B

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 248
  • Gender: Male
  • When all else fails go to PLAN-BEE
Re: Test for Africanized bees?
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2014, 08:51:20 PM »
KICK test sounds scientific enough for me Michael Bush...lol
Richter with friends like you who needs enemies... :lau:
Remind me to not let you bring your bees to my house...lmao
Marshall

Online richter1978

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 108
Re: Test for Africanized bees?
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2014, 09:18:28 PM »
He is a generous friend. :-D

Offline JackM

  • Field Bee
  • ***
  • Posts: 562
  • Gender: Male
Re: Test for Africanized bees?
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2014, 08:32:03 AM »
He sure made this post even more interesting.  Even sounds official, the Kick Test....ya.
Jack of all trades
Master of none.

Offline amun-ra

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 89
  • Gender: Male
Re: Test for Africanized bees?
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2014, 09:30:21 AM »
After reading these posts I thought I'd try the kick test as I passed the wife in the hall.Im now certain she's africanised,might put her outside and bring mybees inside. :-D
Every day the sun shines and gravity sucks= free energy

Online richter1978

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 108
Re: Test for Africanized bees?
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2014, 08:30:23 PM »
Or..  Take her to a friends house. ;)

Offline PLAN-B

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 248
  • Gender: Male
  • When all else fails go to PLAN-BEE
Re: Test for Africanized bees?
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2014, 09:34:08 PM »
Too funny amun-ra..... i will forgo the kick test on the wife or i may be the one dropped off at a friends house.... it might feel something like this  :jail:
Marshall

Offline GSF

  • Super Bee
  • *****
  • Posts: 2289
  • Gender: Male
Re: Test for Africanized bees?
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2014, 05:52:49 AM »
...or worse, we could be forced to go grocery shopping with them.
"Life is hard, It's even harder when you're stupid."

John Wayne

Offline sawdstmakr

  • Galactic Bee
  • ******
  • Posts: 3809
  • Gender: Male
Re: Test for Africanized bees?
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2014, 01:00:45 PM »
This thread gets better everyday.  :lau: :lau:
Jim
"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed.  If you do read the newspaper you are misinformed."--Mark Twain

Offline Michael Bush

  • Universal Bee
  • *******
  • Posts: 14540
  • Gender: Male
    • bushfarms.com
Re: Test for Africanized bees?
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2014, 09:26:35 PM »
>Note to self, "Don't do this unless fully suited".

That goes without saying...
Michael Bush
My website:  bushfarms.com/bees.htm en espanol: bushfarms.com/es_bees.htm
My book:  ThePracticalBeekeeper.com
-------------------
"Everything works if you let it."--Rick Nielsen

Offline jayj200

  • Queen Bee
  • ****
  • Posts: 1330
Re: Test for Africanized bees?
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2014, 05:55:39 PM »
I have been told.
if they thump you on the chest as a warning.
probably not a good bee!
jay