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Question: What hive do you use of most prefer to use?
10-Frame Langstroth - 34 (69.4%)
8-Frame Langstroth - 14 (28.6%)
National Hive - 1 (2%)
WBC Hive - 0 (0%)
Dartington Long Deep - 0 (0%)
Beehaus - 0 (0%)
Top Bar - 0 (0%)
Warre Hive - 0 (0%)
Perone Hive - 0 (0%)
Bi-queen Hive - 0 (0%)
Lounger Hive - 0 (0%)
Finnish Hive - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 49


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« on: January 25, 2014, 06:57:59 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2014, 08:15:18 AM »

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My guess is 8 and 10 frame Langstroth is going to cover the overwhelming number of respondents, with a few TBH folks thrown in the mix.  My guess is all the others are distant outliers. 

I think the more interesting question might be further narrowing down of the Lang folks...

You've inspired me to throw out a spinoff, I'll see what I can come up with.  grin
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2014, 08:26:35 AM »

Dartington Long Deep is maybee what you meant


My set up is 10 frames double Deeps and a Queen excluder and shallows as supers.  A few of langstroth's different sizes.

Also I have a raised bottom board with rear ventilation.

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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2014, 09:53:24 AM »

Dartington Long Deep is maybee what you meant


My set up is 10 frames double Deeps and a Queen excluder and shallows as supers.  A few of langstroth's different sizes.

Also I have a raised bottom board with rear ventilation.

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Yes that is what I meant.  grin Typho error.
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2014, 09:57:26 AM »

BeeDog,
My guess is 8 and 10 frame Langstroth is going to cover the overwhelming number of respondents, with a few TBH folks thrown in the mix.  My guess is all the others are distant outliers. 

I think the more interesting question might be further narrowing down of the Lang folks...

You've inspired me to throw out a spinoff, I'll see what I can come up with.  grin


I added the other hives so that there will be a wide range of choices. I agree that many respondents will choose between the Langstroth and the TBH.  Wink
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2014, 01:26:30 PM »

I currently use 10 frame Langs, all mediums, all foundationless and treatment free since 2007.  My 10 frame brood boxes are simply converted to 8 frame with follower boards on both sides, which also adds more insulation for winter.

I've also played around with LONG HIVES (and TBH) for several years, medium and DEEP frame.  I no longer house big colonies in them and have since converted one of those LONGs into a three partitioned NUC/queen bank and plan on converting the other two I have into similar NUC staging boxes.  Fun, fun….. Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2014, 12:32:03 PM »

TBeek...I am also foundationless and treatment free. Sure wish I had checked this board before I got started with deeps. I only have 2 Langs hives but had my husband put observation windows in them...I don't think he'd take kindly to my changing them at this point..
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2014, 06:12:42 AM »

TBeek...I am also foundationless and treatment free. Sure wish I had checked this board before I got started with deeps. I only have 2 Langs hives but had my husband put observation windows in them...I don't think he'd take kindly to my changing them at this point..

My conversion to all mediums took 3-4 years to complete.  I use my old DEEPS as feed/vent boxes and swarm catchers.  I like the idea of having a few boxes converted with  'observation' windows and plan on installing some this summer or spring.
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2014, 10:21:29 AM »

I don't have any windows in my Langs, but I do in my TBH.  It is nice to go  out there and let the cover over the window down and see how your bees are doing.  On my Langs I still have double deeps for brood, with med and shallows  for supers, all 10 frames.



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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2014, 07:22:15 PM »

I like white painted hives.   grin
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2014, 09:23:43 AM »

i like hives like these

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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2014, 10:00:12 AM »

I currently use 10 frame Langs, all mediums, all foundationless and treatment free since 2007.  My 10 frame brood boxes are simply converted to 8 frame with follower boards on both sides, which also adds more insulation for winter.

I've also played around with LONG HIVES (and TBH) for several years, medium and DEEP frame.  I no longer house big colonies in them and have since converted one of those LONGs into a three partitioned NUC/queen bank and plan on converting the other two I have into similar NUC staging boxes.  Fun, fun….. Smiley

tbeek can you send me some pictures of the long hive conversion?  i was planning on building something like that for mating nucs this year. 
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2014, 10:37:21 AM »

i like hives like these




what material is that hive made? Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2014, 03:38:13 AM »

 this is a silly question --take a ten frame deep and you can change the inside confiquratio to
many diderant styles--very easy--RDY-B
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2014, 05:43:20 AM »

I currently use 10 frame Langs, all mediums, all foundationless and treatment free since 2007.  My 10 frame brood boxes are simply converted to 8 frame with follower boards on both sides, which also adds more insulation for winter.

I've also played around with LONG HIVES (and TBH) for several years, medium and DEEP frame.  I no longer house big colonies in them and have since converted one of those LONGs into a three partitioned NUC/queen bank and plan on converting the other two I have into similar NUC staging boxes.  Fun, fun….. Smiley

tbeek can you send me some pictures of the long hive conversion?  i was planning on building something like that for mating nucs this year. 

I suppose I could but its covered in snow right now……stay tuned……until Spring  Smiley
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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2014, 11:27:52 AM »

i like hives like these




what material is that hive made? Smiley


2" foil covered insulation board.
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« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2014, 03:33:31 PM »

Why did not you include other types of hives to the list?

Especially:

Lounger (with or without the extension);
Finnish
Bi-queen

I would prefer Dadant hives but with some modifications
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2014, 11:39:39 AM »

Why did not you include other types of hives to the list?

Especially:

Lounger (with or without the extension);
Finnish
Bi-queen

I would prefer Dadant hives but with some modifications


Sorry I was not aware of the kind of hives you mentioned. I will add them now.
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« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2014, 12:45:08 PM »

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Sorry I was not aware of the kind of hives you mentioned. I will add them now.


Sorry for missing explanations. Let me quickly describe each new type, because titles can be different in US and CIS:

Lounger hive - a standard bee box for 1-2 colonies with 12-30 frames on board. Here is the example - https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRjEQ6ln2-COokDwZIXIppoV6cBvCKcAkYMdLzD8Lm2Y2-31wIk

Finnish hive. This hive is basically used in North countries (especially Finland, Norway, Sweden) and has more than 3 meters height. Mostly it is manufactured from light-weight materials such as poly-carbonates. Example is here - http://www.pchelovodstvo.ru/forum/shared_files/uploaded/101/2280_1_o.jpg

Bi-queen hive. Two-colonies hive (i.e with two queens). Colonies are separated by special metal grid.  http://freemarket.kiev.ua/images_message/564/102703/642196/770347.jpg

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« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2014, 03:30:07 PM »

My set up is ten frame Langs double deeps. But I am considering going to 8 frame Langs. Been reading Michael Bush and he makes a lot of sense.
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