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« on: January 14, 2014, 08:00:23 PM »

I've been feeding my bees the last couple of days since I found the stores to be very low. I have two 8f deeps and one partially drawn out medium. Very populated. I put two (quart) boardman feeders in the entrance yesterday morning and this morning around daybreak there was only about a half inch left in each one. So I refilled.

About 10' semi circle in front of the hive was full of bees flying. Not long after I got close and started watching them I caught it in the throat under my chin. Other bees were very upset at my presence and eventually I moved off. A couple followed me and were angrily flying around me. A couple hours later one got me on the head.

I think there may have been some robbing going on but I really couldn't tell. With the number of bees I have surely there would have been some fighting on the landing board. I saw some drones being escorted out and some free will coming and going. I reduced the entrance down to about an inch and it created a heck of a back up. Later on when I refilled one of them again I started pouring it on the surface of several things and set it around the hive. The bees really took to it. It seem to calm them down as well.

As I observed the hive some more I saw nurse bees coming out of the hive and sampling the bounty from the forager bees. So I opened the hive up some more. A couple of times earlier when I opened it up it seem to agitate them. This afternoon about dark I looked on the piece of plywood I have under the front of the hive and I didn't see any extra dead bees out of the norm.

I'll go out there very early in the morning and put a towel in the entrance. Once it warms up to around 40ish my wife is going to go out there and see if there's any bees flying around. That should let me know if it was robbing or not.

I'm torn betwixt two.., I don't want a robbing issue. On the positive side, I would be wrong with my notion about there not being any feral bees around here. I haven't seen any honey bees around here for a year or two before I got mine. All the bees out there looked pretty much the same. I have the 3 banded Italians and if there is such a thing, I thought I saw some two banded ones.
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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2014, 08:16:30 PM »

Can you move the boardmans 100 to 200 feet from the hives. That will stop any robbing that may be happening, but your bees will soon find it.
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2014, 08:37:53 PM »

I thought of doing that and/or some type of open feeding away from the hive. I figure if it is feral bees and they survive they may just end up in one of my swarm traps this spring.
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2014, 08:37:46 AM »

Can you move the boardmans 100 to 200 feet from the hives. That will stop any robbing that may be happening, but your bees will soon find it.

Boardmans are 'especially' problematic when there is nothing else available for bees to forage.  There are pros and cons to Open Feeding and much depends on timing.

I open feed 1-150 yards away from the yard 'twice' a year, FIRST in spring before the flows begin and AGAIN in Fall after receiving a few killing frosts.  You'll pick up some ferrels and some YJ's but chances are real good your bees will eat up most of whatever you put out for them.  And if your hives already are filled with honey, they'll just consume it, instead of storing it and capping, leaving the honey for winter.
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2014, 06:58:48 PM »

When my wife went out there this morning to open them up she said she didn't see any bees flying around. So it "probably" wasn't robbing. Another probably with those feeders is when they are really hungry they will wedge themselves in there. I took the jar off of one when I had it sitting away from the hive. At first appearance it didn't look like they were messing with it. When I removed it there was a ball of bees boiling out from the jar side. I'll have to figure something out on this feeding. I had some in a couple of things not hardly deep at all. This afternoon when I got home from work collectively there was quite a bit of bees that drowned or something.
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2014, 07:40:46 PM »

Robbing screens on each hive will eliminate robbing.
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2014, 08:48:32 PM »

do you run an inner cover?  if so you can stack an empty super over it and just feed up there.
i use division board feeders with floats in them.
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