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« on: February 02, 2006, 07:14:13 AM »

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Hi Friends,

I am very woried about the possibilty of SHB infecting my hives. What is the situation at present, (last I heard it was in Portugal). How are we going to deal with this thing, as I understand it, it is pretty indestructable. As if Varroa wasn't bad enough!.

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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2006, 07:46:01 AM »

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PS I submitted this into the Greetings Page by mistake. AIN'T THAT JUST LIKE RUSTY!!


I deleted the post in the greetings section for you smiley
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2006, 07:51:55 AM »

Thank you!!
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2006, 09:05:52 PM »

I don't think you have Small Hive Beetle in the UK do you?

Most people in most places in Northern climates don't find them that devestating, just a nuisance like wax moths are.
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2006, 10:07:42 PM »

I have found that wax moths are pretty devastating to hives if the hive is weak and/or you give the bees too much room.
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2006, 01:19:36 AM »

I believe before its over, the SHB will be like varroa, Everywhere!!!!! it just a matter of time......
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2006, 01:23:14 AM »

I heard it is in Georgia and Florida. That is why I only get my bees from cali.
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2006, 01:33:11 AM »

you way behind horn, most every state has them now, i have heard they were in california 4-5 years ago, just had this topic in beesource,,, read this

http://www.beesource.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=000624
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2006, 01:50:48 AM »

Florida bee keeper here.
We definitely have SHBs here in Florida. They just got done decimating my hive. A weak hive will be destroyed by them. Here is what I was able to observe. The SHB lays eggs in the hive, the SHB lavare grows and eats through the comb. I have witnesses this. I literally froze a section of comb with the lavare in it so I could take a better look at it.

The best defense against them is a strong hive, but right now it seems to be there are always going some SHBs in the hive. The idea is to keep them to a minimum.

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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2006, 07:19:29 AM »

Understud, how are your captured bees doing?

Haven't seen you around here for sometime.
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2006, 07:19:52 AM »

Understudy,  how are your captured bees doing?

Haven't seen you around here for sometime.
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2006, 09:00:00 AM »

Hi Jack,

I have been reading posts just not making a lot of them. I didn't want to become a chronic, not only that I am suppose to have a life. However I have been keeping a small listing of items with the bees on my website.
You can read articles at :
http://www.understudy.net/page2.html
For the readers digest version of it. Let's say I am very effective at killing bees.

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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2006, 08:44:07 AM »

Read your tale of woe, Understudy.

Typical results.  Some of the seemingly simple feral bee captures are very often not so. Having done a few I have resolved to not get involved except with the sure bets. And yes, bees in the wrong locations will usually be exterminated, but...

Since it seems that the AHB is established in FL there will no doubt be many feral bee exterminations.  Have your new friends in the bee world had experience with the AHB's yet?
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2006, 10:03:08 AM »

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Florida bee keeper here.
We definitely have SHBs here in Florida. They just got done decimating my hive. A weak hive will be destroyed by them.


Is it possible to get a nuc, package bees, swarms or what ever to put in new order your hive.  I suppose that it is summer there are bees and flowers huh   Orrrr, just wait and some African swarm comes in.

We have only -5C frost here and 15 cm snow.
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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2006, 10:14:31 AM »

Yes, AHBs have been found in the county just north of me. It was great because I was doing the PR rounds with my neighbors discussing my new bees and the newspaper headlines that morning were all about the AHBs found in the next county.

The biggest problem on the SHBs for me was that because I let the hive get weak, the SHBs were able to get real strong. Also trying to find a replacement queen in Janurary isn't easy.

I have two hives now, picked up the second one yesterday. Cost me $200 but it came with 30,000 bees and one deep, and one medium. It also had a plastic queen excluder. It has a mesh bottom also. Mine all have board bottoms.

Now we are having the coldest weather of the year, 36 F / 2.2C for the next two days. My bees won't even come out. I don't blame them I want to stay in bed also.

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« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2006, 05:50:30 AM »

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I don't think you have Small Hive Beetle in the UK do you?

Most people in most places in Northern climates don't find them that devestating, just a nuisance like wax moths are.


According to the National Bee Unit we don't have SHB in the UK at present. This is the current advisory leaflet for your information.

http://www.csl.gov.uk/science/organ/environ/bee/diseases/documents/SHB_factsheet.pdf
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« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2006, 06:05:58 AM »

Thank you for posting that leaflet, very interesting and informative. You maybe think I am making a typcally female fuss about this little beast, but all that I have read is pretty ugly, and I don't want to find it in my hives. I really love my bees, and would hate to see them decimated by SHB. I hope there is some sort of method of controling them being sought. seems like we really need it.
Thank you once again

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« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2006, 06:25:05 AM »

>You maybe think I am making a typcally female fuss about this little beast, but all that I have read is pretty ugly, and I don't want to find it in my hives.

Me neither.  I hope they never get to the UK.  Unfortunately they ARE here.  So far I haven't seen any, but it's bound to happen sooner or later.
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« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2006, 07:05:12 AM »

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Yes, AHBs have been found in the county just north of me. It was great because I was doing the PR rounds with my neighbors discussing my new bees and the newspaper headlines that morning were all about the AHBs found in the next county.

The biggest problem on the SHBs for me was that because I let the hive get weak, the SHBs were able to get real strong. Also trying to find a replacement queen in Janurary isn't easy.

I have two hives now, picked up the second one yesterday. Cost me $200 but it came with 30,000 bees and one deep, and one medium. It also had a plastic queen excluder. It has a mesh bottom also. Mine all have board bottoms.

Now we are having the coldest weather of the year, 36 F / 2.2C for the next two days. My bees won't even come out. I don't blame them I want to stay in bed also.

Sincerely,
Brendhan


Don't fret the temp. My bees were active yesterday. One of my hives had a coming out party yesterday. The coming out bees were doing their orientation dance. Quite pleasent to witness. The morning temp was 30 degrees F and the afternoon got to around 50 or so. The air was slightly chilly but the sky was blue and clear.  I felt like dancing myself. Cool

Well you and your fellow beeks in FL will have to make some serious decisions about keeping bees in the near future due to this AHB INVASION.  What are you, and, your fellow beeks contemplating?

It seems like ya'll will have to formulate some plan of action or the state will step in.
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« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2006, 07:15:50 AM »

Since I am relativley new to bee keeping I am not actually planning on doing a lot about the AHB issue. I am glad I have my hives. AHBs love to fill in a vaccumm. I figure my best bet is to make sure my hives stay healthy and my queens will probably get replaced only with queens from reputable dealers. I am more interested right now in finding an effective natural way to deal with SHBs. Maybe I should let my hedgehog eat them.

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