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Author Topic: JFK - 50 years later: where do you stand TODAY?  (Read 1551 times)
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« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2013, 05:55:38 PM »

As I understand history (obviously written by those who killed JFK) Johnson was made an ambassador by JFK so that Johnson was NEVER in the States. Sweet deal if true. If you can't stand your VP, what better way to get rid of him than to send him on an endless working vacation around the world.

Johnson who knew why he was abroad so much hated JFK for the fact, giving conspiracy buffs yet another reason LBJ would want Kennedy whacked - as if he didn't already have 50 other reasons boiling in his head.

I know LBJ was a serious ladies man, literally meaning women were tripping over him - my mother never saw the appeal, of course "POWER" is enough reason for some people to fall head over heels for a politician, or the wealthy or anyone with presume great influence.
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« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2013, 06:19:09 PM »

http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/JFKPOF-135-015.aspx

LOL  you use McNamara as a source!!  that's telling.

you may start with the above speech since you seem not to know much about what Kennedy thought about Vietnam and our involvement.  i trust that you have at least rudimentary skills in research and can move on from the above.

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no idea where this came from little teddy was one of the primary re-writers of Kennedy history.  why would i not mention him?  i'm thinking the assumption was on your part....

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« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2013, 07:08:14 PM »

Yeah, I didn't think you had read them...
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« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2013, 07:25:56 PM »

way to address the points.  i know.  you can't.  you might at least humor us and try.

stay away from sharp objects.  you don't want to accidentally let the air out.
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« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2013, 08:50:25 PM »

No one can know for sure how JFK would have handled Vietnam. We can guess based upon some of the things he publicly said, and take into account the secondhand info from those who knew him...
I place the escalation and failure on LBJ.
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« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2013, 05:28:57 AM »

way to address the points.  i know.  you can't.  you might at least humor us and try.

stay away from sharp objects.  you don't want to accidentally let the air out.

What points?  Did you make a point?   laugh laugh  

Yep…see what I mean?…….Are you capable of addressing anothers point of view without the insults?  Or is it just easier to ignore the question that way rather than engage in any discussion that may upset you or challenge your viewpoint?    Show me  rolleyes what and where you've ever actually addressed ANYTHING I've presented.  

Your comments remind me why I left High School and why I generally ignore you.  Its too easy to be a 'tough guy' (or girl) on the internet  grin
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« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2013, 10:00:22 AM »

T, you make me laugh.
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« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2013, 02:05:24 PM »

T, you make me laugh.

Good  cool because making one laugh while providing 'food for thought' (which is more often than not my intent), is always better than making one angry. 

That said, I don't believe I have any power, control or responsibility over how anyone 'reacts' to what is posted.
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