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Author Topic: It's not Bush's fault? Really?? He didn't blame Bush??  (Read 963 times)
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« on: October 15, 2013, 02:30:59 PM »


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      Obama
      is blaming Fox News for 2/3 of the country disliking Obamacare. Here's Neal Cavuto's explanation and it is
      great.  If you don't understand what is bad about ObamaCare please read his comments and you will
      understand.








Mr.
        President, Fox News isn't what's making
        Americans sick about your healthcare
        law.  Your healthcare law is.
        Welcome, everybody, I'm Neil Cavuto.  And excuse this departure from
        form.  But I think this is just poor form.  So, it's time we set some things
        straight.



Mr. President, we at Fox News are not the
        problem.  I hate to break it to you, sir.  You are.
        Your words are.  Your promises are.  We didn't sell this
        healthcare law.  Sir, you
        did.  Remember this?



President Barack Obama:  If you like your doctor, you will
        be able to keep your doctor.  Period.



Mr. President, tell
        that to tens of thousands of retirees at
        IBM and Time Warner and dozens of others, who've been dumped from their coverage and
        told to find their own coverage.  Fox News didn't break that news
        to them, Mr. President.  Their companies did.



Fox News
        didn't push more of those firms to hire part-time workers.  Your
        healthcare law did.  Fox News
        didn't incentivize fast food restaurants
        to scale back their benefits.  Your healthcare law did.
        Fox
        News didn't make doctors want to opt out.  Your healthcare law did.  Fox News didn't make
        insurance premiums sky rocket.  Your healthcare law did.
        Just
        like Fox News didn't grant hundreds of exemptions to companies that needed
        them.  You did.
        And
        Fox News didn't delay one key provision after another, including
        online enrollment for those small
        business exchanges.  You did.



Just like it wasn't Fox News
        that said we had to pass this to see what was in this.  You
        did.  Or was that Nancy Pelosi?  Sometimes I'm confused.
        But of this I am not.
        Fox
        News didn't re-do basic math.  Sir, you did.
        Fox
        News didn't say you can cover 30 million more Americans and not see a
        hit in premiums.  You did.
        Fox
        News didn't say you could throw in those with pre-existing conditions and not have to pay
        for it.  You did.
        Fox
        News didn't all but say you could get something for nothing.  You
        did.
        Fox
        News didn't come back years later and say, oh yea, we did raise some
        taxes.  You did.



Here's
        where you are right about Fox News, however, Mr. President.  We
        can do math.  And did.  You cannot.  And did not.

        We
        said it, and proved it.  You didn't.  And we're all
        suffering for it.  Take it from the numbers guy at Fox.
        Numbers don't lie.
        The
        number of Americans working part-time and nervous.  The number of
        retirees days away from being dumped on
        exchanges and anxious.
        The
        number of company bosses with any news to pass along on those
        exchanges, but still clueless.

        The
        number of doctors who want out.
        The
        number of congressmen now opting out.
         No, Mr. President, none of those numbers lie.



But with
        all due respect sir, I can only conclude you do know; I know, I know
        you hate us at Fox.
        But
        please take a look in a mirror, and fast.
        You
        think we're the skunk at your picnic.  But that doesn't mean
        we're the ones that stink.
        Because
        that smell isn't coming from the folks reporting on your law.
         Mr. President, that smell is your law.
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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2013, 03:57:43 PM »

Wow!  That's as strong as 10 acres of garlic!

I always did like Neal Cavuto....Nicely done.   Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2013, 04:13:27 PM »

Yeah but look at what Obama has done for the stock market it just keeps going up he must be doing something right

Keith
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2013, 04:19:56 PM »

YEP, it's UP?? minus 133 so far today. Ain't that great?
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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2013, 04:45:37 PM »

yeah but but but it will go up again cause obama is president. hes the greatest ever
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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2013, 06:03:22 PM »

Hope you got your waders on. It's getting deeper than any boots.   grin
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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2013, 05:51:22 AM »

Keith13,

The stock market is going up largely in part of the money printing. It may be different in your area but I don't see a lot of "help wanted" signs around here, and Alabama's economy is better than a lot of other states.

If I'm right about the stock market it will spiral down once the printing presses are stopped for a planned long term. The gov't prints the money and loans it to the central banking system. Since there's not a lot of development going on, the banks don't have anyone to loan it to, therefore they buy stocks.

It's easy to buy stocks, it's the selling that will be a problem. Most bull markets are average a little over two years, this one is over four because of quantitative easing (printing money). There still could be a lot of money to be made in the stock market, or a lot of money to be lost.
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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2013, 10:09:13 AM »

Keith had his tounge firmly in his cheek, i think.

GSF, you got it.  this is another bubble, but one completely of the government and federal reserve making. 
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2013, 08:47:06 PM »

yes tongue firmly in cheek

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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2013, 08:17:56 AM »

Where's Blueboy?  He can explain this to us
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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2013, 01:01:04 PM »

Blue is counting his money the stock market is going to be up cause Obama can now  get us in more dept and the one percent likes that.
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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2013, 01:47:54 PM »

pretty sure it doesn't have anything to do with the 1%.  if anything, it has to do with the dependent class.  they get to keep getting their goodies.   that so called 1% are those of us who have worked hard for our money and don't like at all what we see the government doing.
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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2013, 10:58:52 AM »

pretty sure it doesn't have anything to do with the 1%.  if anything, it has to do with the dependent class.  they get to keep getting their goodies.   that so called 1% are those of us who have worked hard for our money and don't like at all what we see the government doing.
The 1% ers like the Govt. spending and printing money also they get big contracts to build batteries and solar panels and computer programs to sign people on to Obama Care, and hammers that cost $500, and dam projects in Ohio, and the list goes on.
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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2013, 12:43:33 PM »

you are talking about crony capitalism.  i don't know that that was the definition of 1% given by occupy wall street, although that would have been included.  near as i can tell, the definition of 1%ers was anyone who as making a living and not wanting to turn over a hunk of what they made to kids who were crapping in the park moaning about big student loans.

besides, this business of %s is divisive.  we should all be heading for the top %.  we may not all make it, but we can have that as a goal.  if we do make it, it's' not something to be ashamed of, it's something to celebrate. 

pop quiz:  why is there crony capitalism in the first place?  Hint:  why would business want to get in bed with the government?   evil
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