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Offline GSF

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Enemy at the gate
« on: August 13, 2013, 02:37:44 PM »
Being retired military and appreciating all soldiers the first part of this show gives you a good idea what it was like to fight in WWII. The rifle he used is a Mosin Nagant (Mo seen Na gann). 7.62x54R. It was what the Russians used before getting the AK 47. Those things are so stinking accurate they method they used to select a sniper rifle was crude and simple. When they test fired them from the factory they would just get the best ones from that batch and use them for sniper rifles. I have about five of them and a Finish M39 - a remake of the Mosins by the Finish when they captured a bunch from a failed invasion by the Rooskies. Such a part of history.

After the first part it's pretty much a sniper vs sniper movie.

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When the person in front of you falls down, pick his rifle up and keep moving.
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Re: Enemy at the gate
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2013, 03:25:47 PM »
it was a great movie.  one of the few i have enjoyed watching more than once.
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Re: Enemy at the gate
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2013, 12:41:05 PM »
That it is true helps the sense of history and reality...
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Re: Enemy at the gate
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2013, 01:54:16 PM »
I enjoyed the movie too… as entertainment.  Truth, reality and history, out of Hollywood?  Who’s version?  How many inaccuracies?


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Re: Enemy at the gate
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2013, 11:19:02 PM »
Okay, you got me to watch - I finished it a few hours ago and it was very good. It's not hard to imagine ANYWHERE turned to rubble and it being a line in the sand.

In any of the high-tech video games (war sims as they are often called) you find out quick how powerful YET volunerable a sniper is. Any good sniper is only as good as the guy watching his back.

This movie surely was a chess game, who can outwit who and at what cost. Pinpointing a single man against man battle in the hardest days of Stalingrad isn't easy to do. I just had wished that it wasn't a love story of sorts and suicide by sniper, even with well deserved guilt was bolstering.

Nothing against women, but the rules of movies dictate some of the policy that shapes the stories, often fro their original screenplay: US MOVIES have set rules that I think often ruin what was a good book turned to movie.

Example, you have to have a woman in every US made movie. Even if it is a VOICE as was in the movie BURIED - by the way, I strongly urge everyone to see BURIED if you have not. It is the story of a Defense Contractor in Iraq who is capture by the enemy - and that is all I will say except it is an amazing one-man show (you'll see).

But then you need a 10% Canadian cast - why? And (and I agree with this, except in zombie movies and non-fiction films, you cannot kill children. The Walking Dead has killed several kids, of course all zombies, but implied killing is what you will see otherwise in movies and TV.

Some silly rules, worse than the token gay guy, black guy and old fart on Big Brother and other reality shows. The one that gets me (and I know this sounds bigoted and racist) but at lunch we watch the Price is Right and you will see the camera pan from left to right on the audience - if there are 4 black people, that is a lot. But when they start calling people up to contestant row, each half of the hour long show seems to always have at least two and often more back contestants. Which tells me they have two random piles of names to pick from, something you never hear anything about. I do not think in 3 decades (especially the last decade) a day has gone by without a black contestant and my only issue is that this is rigged. with 300 contestants in the audience, your odds are 60 to one if you only have five black contestants in the audience - how can at least two get on stage EVERY DAY?? again, two piles of names to draw from. What this has to do with Enemy at the Gates, I have no clue - but my tangential mind typed this, not me - lol. Good film.

PLEASE WATCH "BURIED" starring Ryan Reynolds - great movie.
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Re: Enemy at the gate
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2015, 11:17:18 PM »
Good Movie....
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Re: Enemy at the gate
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2015, 07:39:25 PM »
Beemaster, I haven't seen American Sniper yet, but I understand it shows him shooting a kid that's about to blow up some soldiers -- tough to do, but like John Wayne said (I think in Green Berets), "A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.". (something like that, anyway)