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Offline hjon71

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Hijacking and Derailing
« on: August 12, 2013, 10:50:26 PM »
Is it really so hard to stay on topic?  :?

Or am I the only one this bothers?

Quite difficult matters can be explained even to a slow-witted man, if only he has not already adopted a wrong opinion about them; but the simplest things cannot be made clear even to a very intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he already knows, and knows indubitably, the truth of the matter under consideration. -Leo Tolstoy

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Re: Hijacking and Derailing
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2013, 11:16:34 PM »
it's you.

it's not uncommon for one comment to lead things off in another direction.  try being a bit flexible.  some of those conversations go on for pages and they can be entertaining.
.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

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Re: Hijacking and Derailing
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2013, 11:42:28 PM »
Is it really so hard to stay on topic?  :?

Or am I the only one this bothers?


 
   
    If you think about it, All these post responding to Keith13 were and are on topic. Examples are given and others reply. My example of the MSNBC incident showed just how bad misreporting can get.

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Re: Hijacking and Derailing
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2013, 12:21:53 AM »
hjon, who do you recommend to judge whether each post is on topic or not. I'm sure everyone would not agree as to whether a particular post was on topic or not.  It's more fun just relaxing and seeing where the conversation goes.
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Re: Hijacking and Derailing
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2013, 02:01:48 AM »
It’s like Fox News hjon.  They’ve learned from the masters. :laugh:

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Re: Hijacking and Derailing
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2013, 02:13:56 AM »
A perfect example would be the post by a TF beek - Ask questions here(I think). I would post a link but I can't find it now. The purpose as spelled out by the OP was anyone interested in TF could ask questions about the subject and he would answer them. I have to give Mr. Parker credit for trying to keep it on track but it was sidetracked, interrupted, you name it.

My point is:
The OP should be respected. Why not just begin a new post to suit your needs?
I have noticed that most of the off topic posts begin with a disagreement that gets batted back and forth or meanders where ever it will and does nothing to progress the OP.

While it may be entertaining(sometimes), I find I would rather not post than wade through all the unrelated mess. I find it hard to believe I'm the only one to feel that way.

Who should judge? Can we all just agree to make an honest effort to stay on topic? Police yourself, more often than not one knows when it happens.
Quite difficult matters can be explained even to a slow-witted man, if only he has not already adopted a wrong opinion about them; but the simplest things cannot be made clear even to a very intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he already knows, and knows indubitably, the truth of the matter under consideration. -Leo Tolstoy

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Re: Hijacking and Derailing
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2013, 02:47:52 AM »
In the bee forums, I agree, and many have been locked for straying.

Coffee house is different, The rules are relaxed somewhat and we joke a lot. Some even get heated.

Example... Bluebee and I. We both go into shock when we agree on something, which isn't often. We also take friendly jabs at one another. I don't think either of us have ever gotten mad.
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Re: Hijacking and Derailing
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2013, 10:34:43 AM »
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In the bee forums, I agree, and many have been locked for straying.

Coffee house is different, The rules are relaxed somewhat and we joke a lot. Some even get heated.

that's it. 
.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

 Alexis de Tocqueville

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Re: Hijacking and Derailing
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2013, 11:32:20 AM »
Speaking of derailing , did you see the video of the train in Spain? What a disaster. :evil:

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Re: Hijacking and Derailing
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2013, 11:48:16 AM »
that's really, really, bad!   :evil:
.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

 Alexis de Tocqueville

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Re: Hijacking and Derailing
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2013, 12:02:34 PM »
I just couldn't help it. Sorry.

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Re: Hijacking and Derailing
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2013, 11:14:56 PM »
I forgive you. This time.... :lol:
Quite difficult matters can be explained even to a slow-witted man, if only he has not already adopted a wrong opinion about them; but the simplest things cannot be made clear even to a very intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he already knows, and knows indubitably, the truth of the matter under consideration. -Leo Tolstoy