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« on: July 26, 2013, 08:11:05 AM »

how are the beekeepers in the southeast storing their empty supers during the winter?  we used to stack them on an upside down telescoping cover then put some crystals on the top one and cover it with another telescoping cover and that kept the wax moth out until the we used the again but it's a different world now.
my goal is to set up a walk in freezer for storing them eventually but until then i'm trying to figure out a chemical free way of doing it.
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2013, 08:15:18 AM »

Agree WG Bt Aizawai.


http://www.beekeepingforums.com/threads/2106-Agree-WG-Bt-Aizawai-Powder
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2013, 10:11:59 AM »



thanks but that doesn't sound chemical free. 
it doesn't look like it will really be an issue for me this year.  i'm taking quotes on a 40x60 steel building now.  i may as well start looking at the cost of the walk in while i'm at it. 
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2013, 10:22:19 AM »

I am not doing a lot of supers, but after extracting, letting the bees clean them, I put them in 55 gal trash bags and wire tie them, and store.  Good luck farmer.




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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2013, 10:34:30 AM »

I do the same as Joe D.  I then put bag in 55 gal food grade poly drum.

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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2013, 10:59:59 AM »

Depends on what you call chemicals. Sugar water and honey are chemicals. BT is a biological spore, not a man made poison.
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2013, 11:35:26 AM »


thanks but that doesn't sound chemical free.  
it doesn't look like it will really be an issue for me this year.  i'm taking quotes on a 40x60 steel building now.  i may as well start looking at the cost of the walk in while i'm at it.  

It is considered chemical free. It can also be found under the name Xentari
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2013, 07:03:00 PM »

Is that the stuff you can add to standing water to kill mosquito larvae?  It seems like I read that at least certain strains affect something in the gut of honeybees if it is.  I'll read it a little closer.  What does it do for hive beetles?
This year I'll probably go with the plastic bags and drums.  I found a 12x12 walk in freezer for around 7k.  The ag bank approved me for more than I had budgeted so I may just go for it if I can make my numbers work.
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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2013, 07:45:45 PM »

It does nothing for hive beetle. You have to get the correct strain for wax moth. There are several different strains. It is approved for organic gardening. It (the bt) was once sold under the name certan in  the US by Sandoz but they did not renew the license because you can by the Xentari for a fraction of the cost.
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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2013, 08:12:42 PM »

That sounds like the same stuff.  Let's hope I can pull off the walk in.  That would solve a lot of problems.  I think 12x12 at 7'6" high will hold over 400 mediums.  It will be a few years before I need that kind of space unless I find somebody getting out of beekeeping selling off an entire operation.
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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2013, 08:42:44 PM »



Iddee, do you get the bt from the poster Sundance?
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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2013, 08:48:46 PM »



Not allowed to, post and sell over here! He tried but left when he couldn't. I could tell you something about the way he started selling it and how he found out about it but it is a sore subject  Lips Sealed
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« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2013, 08:54:39 PM »



Not allowed to, post and sell over here! He tried but left when he couldn't. I could tell you something about the way he started selling it and how he found out about it but it is a sore subject  Lips Sealed


sounds like something I really don't want to know.
so where can I purchase stuff?
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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2013, 09:10:21 PM »

Farm co-ops your way have it. Used on some vegetables. Make sure you get the Xentrai or Agree. Valent distributes it. Not thuracide (sp)

Large ag co-ops. I know orangeburg has it  but may be a 5lb bag. You would never use it all

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 http://www.hidhut.com/xentari-p-31.html

How many supers are you needing to do. PM me and let me know.
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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2013, 09:17:26 PM »

RHBee, I sent you a PM.
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« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2013, 09:21:21 PM »

RHBee, I sent you a PM.


Maybe iddee is going to send you some before I do  grin
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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2013, 09:27:06 PM »

RHBee, I sent you a PM.

Got it. Thanks.
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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2013, 06:01:23 AM »

How many supers are you needing to do. PM me and let me know.


Yea- your welcome.  I tend to wear my feeling on my sleeve. The one I have left  grin JK
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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2013, 07:59:10 AM »

How many supers are you needing to do. PM me and let me know.


Yea- your welcome.  I tend to wear my feeling on my sleeve. The one I have left  grin JK

Sorry sc--I'll be treating 17 colonies.  If this stuff works as stated, it sounds like a "no brainer" for weak hives. Spray bees and comb. As well as treating stored comb.
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« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2013, 08:09:42 AM »

Quote from: RHBee link=topic=42176.msg361024#msg361024 date=137492635
BTW, I keep my feelings in safe in a tic tac container. grin
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 grin i like that.

I would not bother spraying comb with bees unless infested. No need. I found that a gallon will spray 60-90 frames.
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