The conversation would mean more to both of us if you listened to what I am saying instead of telling me what I am saying.
Exactly where do you think I have misrepresented what you have said?
That's somewhat true except for incidents like The El Al ticket counter at LAX, the Fort Hood massacre, the Santa Monica college shooter, the Boston bombing, etc.
While all those were terrorist events and are tragic in their own right, I think it's pretty clear to most anyone that they do not fit into the "major terrorist event" category along side 9/11.
I think Fort Hood was the worse of the incidents you mention....It involved a single gunman and resulted in 13 dead. In comparison 9/11 involved 19 hijackers overtaking 4 commercial jets with multiple targets in multiple states, and resulted in 3,000 dead. Pretty clearly apples and oranges!
And the shoe bomber and underwear bomber. Some people just don’t like to keep track of the facts when it doesn’t fit their world view.
What facts am I not keeping track of? You really put these two incidents on par with 9/11 :?
Yes, they could have been tragic....BUT THEY WEREN'T! Thank God alert citizens got involved and took action. Speaking of the concept of "telling people what they are saying", I'm not sure where anyone got the impression that I think citizen don't have an important role to play in the fight against terrorism.
We’ve also gone hundreds of years against an alien invasion Moots. Does that mean the government is “doing something right”? :laugh:
Blue, is this logic left over from when you were is 6th grade? REALLY, I expect more...even from you. :-D
Kind of funny how quickly you want to trade away our liberty for some government excuses. I wonder if you have the same feelings about your guns? Are you ready to give them up too if the government tells you it will make you safer?
I'm a realist, the only thing I've ever said is that there has to be a balance struck between personal liberties and public safety. This isn't a new argument, it's been around forever. By definition, being a member of any civilized society involves sacrificing a certain amount of personal liberty. Do I want to give up my guns....NO! Do I think doing so will make me safer....NO! But at the same time I do understand why I'm not allowed to board a commercial airliner with a loaded M16.
In my opinion, it's not a black and white argument...there's plenty of shades of gray. My difference of opinion with Oblio is that he appears to believe that the government has no role to play and nothing to offer. I happen to believe that's not a very realistic view. But hey, to each his own. That's why they make Chocolate, Vanilla, and Strawberry ice cream!
I think we've pretty much beat this horse to death! :deadhorse: Obviously, we'll have to agree to disagree.