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« on: May 28, 2013, 01:39:23 PM »

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/05/28/18558265-obama-is-clearly-the-worst-socialist-ever?lite
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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2013, 04:14:42 PM »

i have neither the time, nor the patience to read crap from MSNBC.  i'm guessing that she's pushing back on the oft made claim that obama is a socialist.

obama as raised with communists, his mentors were communists, his churches were communist and black liberation theology which is communist.  his father, grandfather, and also his church were anti colonialists.

so is he a good socialist?  not in the karl marx type.  is he a redistributionist?  you bet.  in the international punish the colonialist and make it up to the poor oppressed masses type.  he doesn't really care that much about helping the poor in this country by taking from the wealthy...classic socialism.  he cares about cutting the entire country down to size so that stuff can be given to those countries that rich colonialists have stolen from.

he is also a statist in the classic form.  all things should be managed from the top. 
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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2013, 04:17:34 PM »

hey nonprophet, maybe you can answer a question we never get answered: what, specifically, do you like about obama.  which programs, etc.  there must be some specific reasons you support him?
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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2013, 04:20:39 PM »

i have neither the time, nor the patience to read crap from MSNBC.  i'm guessing that she's pushing back on the oft made claim that obama is a socialist.

obama as raised with communists, his mentors were communists, his churches were communist and black liberation theology which is communist.  his father, grandfather, and also his church were anti colonialists.

so is he a good socialist?  not in the karl marx type.  is he a redistributionist?  you bet.  in the international punish the colonialist and make it up to the poor oppressed masses type.  he doesn't really care that much about helping the poor in this country by taking from the wealthy...classic socialism.  he cares about cutting the entire country down to size so that stuff can be given to those countries that rich colonialists have stolen from.

he is also a statist in the classic form.  all things should be managed from the top. 

What she said!  grin
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2013, 04:22:55 PM »

hey nonprophet, maybe you can answer a question we never get answered: what, specifically, do you like about obama.  which programs, etc.  there must be some specific reasons you support him?

He won't.....He can't!  Smiley

He'll just keep drinking the Kool-aid and spouting the liberal talking points!  laugh
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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2013, 04:34:49 PM »

   

    Its why it is such a waste of time debating Leftist. I have never been able to get them to answer a direct question. BB and Non are perfect examples.
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2013, 04:38:17 PM »

As Margaret Thatcher once said "The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money".
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2013, 06:07:11 PM »

I find it humorous--yet predictable--that none of you bothered to check out the link, but of course had no problem heaping on the criticism when you had no idea what was even being discussed!  Too funny, yet sort of sad.....

Anyway, the point of the post is that with the Dow hitting yet another all time record high, that means that the stock market has increased in value under Obama's watch more than any other president in history! http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/05/24/business/Under-Obama-Stocks-Do-Better.html?ref=economy&_r=0 Not bad for an anti-capitalist/socialist/communist, eh?

Oh, by the way, do you know which president had the second highest increase in stock market value while they were in office?  Yep, Bill Clinton!
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2013, 06:23:08 PM »

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Oh, by the way, do you know which president had the second highest stock market value?  Yep, Bill Clinton!

ah yes.  he also had one of the largest drops, not counting the dot com crash.

it's not surprising that the left supports the economic policies that it does when they point to the stock market as an indicator of economic health.

so...nonprophet, what is the underlying reason for the rise in the stock market?

does it ever occur to you to prop up your points with a source that is not from the far left? 
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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2013, 07:36:45 PM »

I find it humorous--yet predictable--that none of you bothered to check out the link, but of course had no problem heaping on the criticism when you had no idea what was even being discussed!  Too funny, yet sort of sad.....

Anyway, the point of the post is that with the Dow hitting yet another all time record high, that means that the stock market has increased in value under Obama's watch more than any other president in history! http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/05/24/business/Under-Obama-Stocks-Do-Better.html?ref=economy&_r=0 Not bad for an anti-capitalist/socialist/communist, eh?

Oh, by the way, do you know which president had the second highest stock market value?  Yep, Bill Clinton!


    Can you tell us who had control of the purse strings when Clinton was in office?  Hint.....they had to drag him to the "welfare well" three times to get him to sign on to welfare reform. Ever notice how Clinton likes to take credit for this reform?
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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2013, 08:28:45 PM »

clinton was pretty pragmatic.  he wanted to govern, not rule.  much of the nutty far left stuff came from Hillary.  bill on his own was far more middle of the road.
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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2013, 08:54:22 PM »

Nonprophet,
I did look at the link...what do you want me to say?  When you Cherry Pick stats you can make anyone look good.
Besides, the market is up in spite of BO being President, not because of his being President. If you think otherwise, by all means list "in detail" exactly what you think BO has done to create the rise in the market.
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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2013, 09:46:22 AM »

Yes, Obama has done an amazing job so far.   applause applause applause

It's sad that some just won't even look. Sad
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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2013, 10:29:55 AM »

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If you think otherwise, by all means list "in detail" exactly what you think BO has done to create the rise in the market.

ever notice that when you ask that question, or some variation of it, you never get an answer?
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« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2013, 10:56:00 AM »

Yes, Obama has done an amazing job so far.   applause applause applause

It's sad that some just won't even look. Sad

   "Amazing job".....There are two Americans who would disagree with you BB. They can't, They are DEAD!

    On Sept 11, 2012 at 5pm Obama is advised of the attacks on Benghazi. 5 hours later Obama calls H. Clinton. ( at this time two of the Americans are still alive, fighting for their lives ) Shortly there after, the State Dept. releases the Video talking points. This time frame is the important part of the Benghazi puzzle. Other than the call to Clinton, where was Obama and what was he doing. The Whitehouse refuses to answer this question.

    Yes, an amazing job.   applause applause applause
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« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2013, 11:00:46 AM »

but, according to Obama, they knew and accepted the risk! 
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« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2013, 12:55:41 PM »

Yes, Obama has done an amazing job so far.   applause applause applause

It's sad that some just won't even look. Sad

   "Amazing job".....There are two Americans who would disagree with you BB. They can't, They are DEAD!

    On Sept 11, 2012 at 5pm Obama is advised of the attacks on Benghazi. 5 hours later Obama calls H. Clinton. ( at this time two of the Americans are still alive, fighting for their lives ) Shortly there after, the State Dept. releases the Video talking points. This time frame is the important part of the Benghazi puzzle. Other than the call to Clinton, where was Obama and what was he doing. The Whitehouse refuses to answer this question.

    Yes, an amazing job.   applause applause applause
I'm sure you were reviling Bush for the 1000s and 10,000s who have died in his war against WMD.
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« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2013, 01:24:31 PM »

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I'm sure you were reviling Bush for the 1000s and 10,000s who have died in his war against WMD.

sure. as much as i did the UN, French, Jordanians, etc.,  from whom our information came, and who believed he had them also.

now...let me ask you:  what two sources gave us most of the WMD info?

see, you think history started with your awareness that there was a war.  it didn't.  if you bothered going back and learning what was really going on, it might not change your mind about war, but it would certainly inform you.

we also messed around with the UN for a year while convoys of trucks entered Syria and Lebanon. why did the Israilies push into the Bakkah Valley? i think they did it because we asked them to check out what had been taken there.  unfortunately, they didn't make it.

 i don't know what was on those trucks.  do you ever wonder if some of what went on then, makes a difference in how things are being handled now?  why is Syria being handled differently that other arab countries?  
i don't have an answer.  i do think it's important to think outside the box and be aware of what's going on around us.
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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2013, 01:27:47 PM »

Yes, Obama has done an amazing job so far.   applause applause applause

It's sad that some just won't even look. Sad

Ok Blue, nothing from Nonprophet, so this is your opportunity to educate me. Y'all claim BO is doing a great job and the one battle cry y'all offer is "look at the stock market"! 

So I ask...AGAIN...Please list in detail EXACTLY what has BO DONE TO CAUSE OR AID the rise in the market?
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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2013, 02:06:21 PM »

Yes, Obama has done an amazing job so far.   applause applause applause

It's sad that some just won't even look. Sad

   "Amazing job".....There are two Americans who would disagree with you BB. They can't, They are DEAD!

    On Sept 11, 2012 at 5pm Obama is advised of the attacks on Benghazi. 5 hours later Obama calls H. Clinton. ( at this time two of the Americans are still alive, fighting for their lives ) Shortly there after, the State Dept. releases the Video talking points. This time frame is the important part of the Benghazi puzzle. Other than the call to Clinton, where was Obama and what was he doing. The Whitehouse refuses to answer this question.

    Yes, an amazing job.   applause applause applause
I'm sure you were reviling Bush for the 1000s and 10,000s who have died in his war against WMD.

    Ok Luvin, non, BB. I will address your point. As a conservative I pay attention to what people say. I saw and heard H. Clinton say, " I have had my people study this and because of the information I have, I believe Iraq has WMD s ".  The point being, lots and lots of people claimed the WMD s were there. When people accuse Bush of lying, I have to take this with a grain of salt. The fact Sadam used wmd s during the war with Iran seems to be ignored. Kathp has it right. Caravans of trucks were leaving Iraq through Syria.

    BB. Non.   Now you know how to respond to a QUESTION. No charge!

    By the way. Its telling you chose to change the subject. 
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