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« on: May 25, 2013, 11:14:52 AM »

Anyone perfect this yet.   Tried it yesterday.  First 2 frames went great.
After that the wax seemed to want to reseal the honey
After melting.   
The first 2 worked great.  Then it sucked. 
Anyone have the process fine tuned?
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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2013, 11:46:28 AM »

I saw the video but haven't tried it. looks cool to me. Smiley d2
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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2013, 12:02:22 PM »

is there any advantage over an electric uncapping knife?
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« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2013, 01:00:49 PM »

No capping s to work with. Smiley d2
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« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2013, 01:08:10 PM »

Can't watch it at the moment, but here's someone on YouTube doing it. May or may not be helpful.

Uncapping Video Link!

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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2013, 01:20:58 PM »

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My electrict knife went broken and I used heat gun in uncapping.
It gove so bad melted wax aroma to the honey that never again. I bought two new electrict knife as fast as possible.

Same happens if  uncapping knife is too hot. If the knife run so hot that blade burnsblack, it gives aroma of melted wax to honey

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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2013, 01:34:22 PM »

I tried a heat gun last year and found that it was burning the honey (on the surface) as soon as it would melt the wax. It wasn't as bad on fresh white comb but anything that has had brood went poorly. Gave up after just a few frames.

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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2013, 01:53:22 PM »

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In the last extracting in autumn combs are usually half filled
if cells are not full of honey,  gun melts away cell walls.
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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2013, 01:58:51 PM »

Ok.  $40 down the crapper. 
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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2013, 03:06:19 PM »

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5 kg honey that 40 dollar. Real saving, but spoils the yield.
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« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2013, 08:19:51 PM »

bailey, i can tell by your avatar you have a filet knife.. ive found it works real well.
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« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2013, 11:15:05 PM »

That's what I currently use. Single blade from an electric fillet knife . I burned up the original electric handle
By uncapping with it. Prettiest decamping I ever saw. Right up to the time where the handle part burned up.  That was after ummm yeah that's right.  2 frames.  That was. The second one I burned up within a few frames uncapping. 
If you know of an electric that will stand up to extraction I would gladly give it a shot.  Loved how it worked.
Just too short.  Lips Sealed

The one I have is Mounted on a handle of deer horn.  Works great.  Just wanted to get around the idea of dealing with wet
Cappings.
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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2013, 09:22:33 AM »

I got tired of replacing electric " thermostatically"  controlled knives which could not be repaired , at least the ones I used. I use a transformer on the cappings knife now and use it to keep the knife from overheating. Once it is set- you are good.
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« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2013, 10:44:21 AM »

My real job consists of studying, collecting data, otoliths, and dna samples from fish.  I filet alot of fish after Im done with sampling.  Ive had good luck with the Academy house brand electric knives.  They have a rechargeable one that when it wears out, they will exchange it no problem.  Of course the good old dexter has never failed me.  There is also a store that sells dexter knockoffs called Kitchen Concepts.  They have some really nice stuff.
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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2013, 11:18:30 AM »

last year in the produce dept the local grocery was selling a watermelon slicing knife that was real similar to the decapping knives sold by beekeeping suppliers. i kept pan of water on a single burner hot plate & kept the knife in the water while i spun frames. worked great. the knife was $5.00 & was later marked down to $2.50. people i know who use the electric knives say they have a 2-3 year life-span. a heat gun seems like it would do a lot of damage to the comb.
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« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2013, 11:00:02 AM »

I use a standard 12'' fillet knife and I love it. I bought an electric uncapping knife last year and after two supper I went back to my fillet knife.  The fillet knife slices right through the cappings almost effortlessly. I know a lot of people use electric uncapping knifes but I just don't see the point of them.
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« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2013, 12:17:02 PM »

Gov. I know what you mean about those knives.
Hate them.
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« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2013, 12:29:45 PM »

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I bought a new electrict knife and I cannot move the thermostat like in old knife.

i noticed that that new knife works fine if the combs are warmed to 35C . I have a warming kabinet.
If comp temp is 20-25C, knife is really slow.

My oldf hive was so hot that it gove a little bit aroma of melted wax to the honey.
New knife does not do that-

The preheating of combs is very important. Same with room temperature if you can regukate it. Last ayutumn I made an insulated extracting room where I can regulate temperature.
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« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2013, 03:49:53 PM »

We bought a electric uncapping knife when we first started out 8 years ago. Used it that first year and then tried a cold knife which we liked MUCH better.
 Sold the electric knife after we figured out it could kill enzymes in the honey if it was set too high. We try to not use heat of any kind while harvesting or bottling our honey. 
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« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2013, 06:53:49 PM »

Hi All,
Is there any advantage of electric heated over steam heated decapping knives?
I made a steam knife from a piece of 2mm/ .09" stainless flat steel and soldered 3/8" copper pipe to it using lead free solder, I fitted a wooden handle ,it seems to work fine.
The steam provider is a 10Lb refrigerant cylinder, valve removed and a piece of flat steel over valve port to create some pressure, I drilled and fitted a 3/8 copper pipe outlet to supply the steam to the knife.
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