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Quite difficult matters can be explained even to a slow-witted man, if only he has not already adopted a wrong opinion about them; but the simplest things cannot be made clear even to a very intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he already knows, and knows indubitably, the truth of the matter under consideration. -Leo Tolstoy

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Re: Thoughts or Rebuttals?
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2013, 11:39:50 AM »
and they are doing it from passenger jets with chem trails!!

i read it.  followed the link to the PDF.  there is no way to evaluate the accuracy of what they have posted or the legitimacy of the PDF.  some wonk can unlayer it and take a look maybe.  i am not that wonk.  ;)

.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called the government. They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

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Re: Thoughts or Rebuttals?
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2013, 01:43:35 AM »
What they have posted is largely inaccurate; firstly, the USDA programs are not "secret" and the documents never needed to be "uncovered" since they were public documents and posted on the USDA's website for all to access (it's like saying "my own investigation has uncovered startling facts about" a famous murder, where your "investigation" consisted of reading a CNN.com article about the murder).  However, the USDA program targeting birds would not explain massive kills in other countries such as Canada and Sweden, and nothing whatsoever proposed by this article implicates the USDA in any fish kills.  Further, the USDA did not indicate anywhere that the Beebe, Arkansas events were part of its blackbird-kill program, nor would it make sense for them to be poisoning birds only one single night out of the year.   But the article nevertheless begins by pinning all of these events on the USDA.

The USDA's approval of Imidacloprid may have been regrettably speedy but it was not "illegal".

And most egregious of all, the article uses clip-art of wasps to represent bees.  Unforgivable.

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