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« on: July 22, 2014, 06:02:38 PM »

So it just came down. no sheriffs nation wide may arrest illegal  aliens

that in it self is not kosher.

pig blood anyone
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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2014, 07:28:06 PM »

i have not heard that, but since the sheriffs belong to the states or counties, i can't see how that can be.  what was your source?
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2014, 08:25:06 AM »

Fox news
this is from on high all sheriffs everywhere
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2014, 09:21:42 AM »

This is not new actually at all. It is sort of like a catch 22 type of situation, and though I am 2000% against illegal immigration, I see and understand the issue and point. This is the deal.
  The Federal appeals court ruled in a situation where local sheriffs picked up a woman for being a illegal that they were going against the 4th amendment “unreasonable search and seizure” when they held her to investigate her immigration status. They held her for 46 days illegally according to the federal courts. Their reasoning was that the sheriffs held her on a civil warrant for deportation because they ran her through ICE database. That was the problem, because they picked her up when she was actually doing nothing wrong, so her attorneys filed suit claiming the only reason they checked was based on race, therefore it was in violation of the 4th amendment and discrimination.
 In 2012 the U.S. Supreme Court left in place Arizona’s “show me your papers” provision which allows law enforcement to ask for documentation. But it cautioned that police cannot stop an individual solely to verify their immigration status.
  But the real issue is, there is nothing Sheriffs can do, or not much anyways, at least until this administration is sued and forced to enforce the laws which are the laws and demanded by congress, because sheriffs can only know the legal status of people through the federal ICE system. they have no 'database' themselves. so they can never know if someone is legal or illegal in the first place. and then after they do arrest someone, they then have to hand them over to the feds, because since they are local law enforcement, they cannot deport obviously....so if the feds just release them, there is nothing they can do....once more, until the people sue this administration and force them to enforce the laws which they should be enforcing. If a court rules they have to enforce these laws, its also a difficult issue....because how much do they need to enforce them? if it is 100% what happens when the costs are to high? It is VERY difficult to make someone do a job...although people not doing their job should be fired, and that gives them incentive to do their jobs.....in this case, since it is the liberal democrats in office who are all colluding to NOT do their job, who can fire them? Only the people at election time.....but are the people smart enough to do that and send the signal?
 
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2014, 11:35:11 AM »

Well said BTB.

It is a shame what the feds are doing to this country and getting away with.
Jim
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