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« on: June 09, 2014, 09:09:01 PM »

http://www.businessinsider.com/in-the-future-you-may-have-to-pay-the-bank-to-hold-your-money-2013-11

The concept is out there to completely control your money. This paragraph is disturbing to me:

"In recent weeks, economist have discussed the idea of how to implement a negative interest rate while preventing people from hoarding paper currency. Economist Miles Kimball has discussed creating an electronic currency and having an exchange rate between it and dollar bills. Others have discussed going cashless and eliminating paper currency altogether."

Does the thought of the government changing the value of your dollar in conversion to electronic currency bother you? And with electronic currency you can be sure the NSA and every other alphabet agency will have access to the data of where you spend your money. Along with a larger opportunity to freeze your assets.  We in the working class would need to re-establish a system of bartering without government regulation and interference.
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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2014, 09:12:14 PM »

I was discussing with a coworker the importance of printed books and libraries. Can you imagine if all history is digitally recorded and physical books and documents are destroyed how easy it would be to have history rewritten?  Scary thought in my mind. Undecided
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2014, 09:56:32 PM »

Buzzbee; They have now a system set in place to where they can shut down all the banks nation wide at the end of the present cycle of that day.

If you think that disturbing, how about a global reset currency? The one I'm talking about is designed to be set up if/when hyperinflation or something else makes all the fiat currency worthless.

I always have to ask, "Why" Why plan this stuff out if you didn't think there was a chance of it happening?
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2014, 10:00:32 PM »

going completely electronic makes it easy to keep people from buying or selling outside the control of the government.

“He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.” Revelation 13:16,17

in my lifetime this has gone from "wonder how that would work" to something easy, not only to imagine, but to do.  

that's leaves barter.  better have something to trade!!
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2014, 10:05:47 PM »

Why do I have to give out 1099s to corps now for amounts paid over $600?  Government wants to know where the money is going so they can make sure it is taxed.  (cash still talks)   The fed wants to know about our bartering already.  They just have not figured out a way to regulate it. 
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2014, 10:54:49 PM »

it's nuts.  i have let one of the ranchers graze our new property.  he'll have to report what he's paid me if it's over 600 dollars.  i was shocked. 
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2014, 11:28:34 PM »

@Kathy Wow! How much can he eat?!!! Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2014, 11:32:04 PM »

apparently, over 600 dollars worth   grin

ok...his cattle are grazing.  as far as i know, he's not out there grazing with them.
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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2014, 03:11:11 PM »

Kathy, I sent a friend of mine this link a couple of days ago. He replied with the same scripture in Revelation.

I agree with you on another point. In my earlier days I used to wonder how they would do such a thing. Now instead of how I wonder when.
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« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2014, 04:07:38 PM »

apparently, over 600 dollars worth   grin

ok...his cattle are grazing.  as far as i know, he's not out there grazing with them.
Just to be sure...his name isn't Nebuchadnezzar is it?  laugh

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« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2014, 04:24:27 PM »

kathyp, I wonder if the rancher has to report the grazing rent if he doesn't list it as a deduction on his tax return.  angel

If "the powers that be" has it available to them to track your every move...they will.  Credit cards track you easily.  To add a layer of conspiracy to things...think about food.  You will see the government get more and more involved in food production and distribution as time goes by.  Historically the best way to control a large population is with...food, or the lack of it.

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American blood spilled to protect the freedom and peace of people all over the world.  320,000 USA casualties in WWI, 1,076,000 USA casualties in WWII, 128,000 USA casualties in the Korean War, 211,000 casualties in the Vietnam "conflict", 57,000 USA casualties in "War on Terror".  Benghazi, Libya, 13 USA casualties. These figures don't include 70,000 MIA.  But, the leaders of one political party of the United States of America continue to make the statement..."What difference does it make?".

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« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2014, 05:22:32 PM »

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Just to be sure...his name isn't Nebuchadnezzar is it?


have only talked to him on the phone and don't remember his name.  it was:
rancher- "i have been grazing on the land you just bought"
me-"carry on"
rancher- "i'll send you a statement and check at the end of the year and if it runs over 600 dollars, i'll need to have your SSN to file for the IRS"
me- "works for me."

and being the curious type, i looked it up. near as i can tell you have to file the payments no matter what you are doing on your taxes.  odd, but that's how it seems to read.

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food and water.  did you see where Turkey just shut off the Euphrates
http://www.thetrumpet.com/article/11828.18.0.0/middle-east/turkey-dries-up-the-euphrates
this has been ignored in most of the press.

Revelation 16:12 – And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

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« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2014, 07:36:30 PM »

Interesting article there, Kathy.  Looks like an army wouldn't have much trouble walking across that.  And if those dams collapse in Iraq there could get to be several major humanitarian disasters and all during a bloody civil war.  Wonderful.  Sad
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« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2014, 11:30:17 AM »

Very interesting article. I jumped over into another article about Germany jumping in.

I love end times prophecies. However the common thread among end time prophies is - they're wrong. I'm not saying these are, I'm just saying approach with an open mind. Anyone involved in the Church world will tell you that those of us alive today has seen so many end time prophecies either get fullfilled or are now being lined up to be fullfilled.
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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2014, 01:20:29 PM »

True.   Just interesting stuff when you can now see how it could happen.

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« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2014, 08:24:46 PM »

I need to clarify my last post.

It's not that end time prophecies are wrong, it's our interpretation of them that's usually way off base.

To me, Hilton Sutton was one of the best ministers who discussed end time prophecies. He's pass away now. I was listening to him in a mega church when Reagan hadn't been in office but about a year. Long before the build up and the collapse of the USSR. He said we don't need signs and symbols to interpret the Bible. He said the Bible interprets itself. We just need to know scripture, geography, when and where the scripture was written.

During the thick of the Cold War he said the two Germany's would reunite. Something about Gomer and all his bands. He said much of the Middle East would turn away from us as allies. Turkey by name. He pointed out several things that I have seen come to pass. Prophets don't use general terms they are to the point and clear about it. Prophets are know for getting it right, false prophets are know for getting it wrong - which we in the church world tend to ignore.
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« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2014, 08:37:27 AM »

Get ready to be rectified
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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2014, 08:46:53 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2014, 06:52:04 AM »

>"In recent weeks, economist have discussed the idea of how to implement a negative interest rate while preventing people from hoarding paper currency..."

You can't do it.  What would be the advantage of putting it in the bank?  Other than protection from thieves, but a vault, some alarms and a shotgun can cover that pretty well...
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« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2014, 02:14:14 PM »

i think they can, though.  already most people have automatic deposit of pay check.  most people pay all or most bills on line.  our mortgages are paid out of our accounts.

i think we are so tied to the banks now, that for most it would be very difficult to not use one.  in order to use the bank, you need an account.  in order to have the account...people are already paying fees if they don't keep enough in there.  it's going to come across as just another fee for the privilege of them letting you use them for your checks and payment.s
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