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« on: May 09, 2013, 09:26:49 AM »

Hey everybody!

Well, despite the weather lately, which is making me CRAZY! we ended up catching 3 swarms in addition to the 2 splits I made the last 2 weeks of April.  One went to a friends yard, one is waiting to go to a friends yard and one will (hopefully) be installed in the learning garden of a city park! (YAY).  In the meantime I have 4 baby hives in my yard in addition to the 3 established. Yikes!

Everything I read says "Feed, feed feed"  swarms and splits.  But these bees will not take it!  I have put 1:1 on each of them and they take it so slowly (1/2 a jar in a week) that it begins to mold in the jar.  I hate to keep wasting the sugar.

So. . . .
1.  Should I keep putting the feed on them?  and
2.  If it gets a film of mold on the jar, should I remove it or can the bees handle it?  Should i make a stronger blend?

The flow seems to still be going strong even though the rain has kept them in some.  We are waiting to see if they start laying.  If it keeps raining on the weekends, i'm going to have to take some vacation days in order to check them properly!!

Hope everyone is having a good spring! Thanks for any insite.

love,
ziffa

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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2013, 10:01:36 AM »

Everything you have read said to feed until they stop taking it. You aren't paying attention. They have stopped taking it, so stop feeding.
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2013, 10:04:36 AM »

I don't feed my splits.  There's plenty going on in nature for them to get naturally.
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2013, 10:06:18 AM »

You caught three swarm? Yaaaayyyyy! I missed the dance though!
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2013, 10:07:16 AM »

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You caught three swarm? Yaaaayyyyy! I missed the dance though!

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i think you answered your own question!
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2013, 10:11:01 AM »

I started feeding but pulled the feeders 4 days later.
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2013, 10:19:22 AM »

Ouch, Iddee!  Cry  Some of it just says "Feed feed feed - -they are going to need a lot of help"   embarassed.  But you and Kathy are right.  I did kinda figure, but sometimes a girl needs some reassurance!  /pout   Wink

And Scott - Hippy bee caught 2 of them while I was at work!  He had so much fun, and I was jealous.  He doesn't dance but he does yell  "SWAAAARRRMM!!" a- la "GOOOOOAAAAALLLL!" in soccer. Cheesy

ST I haven't pulled them yet.  Do you think the mold will hurt the bees?  (tho since they aren't really taking it, I guess not.)

And thanks Bassman!  I kept telling myself that, but then would read another article or post . . . a couple of them never took it at all.  If the sun would just keep shining here, I think we could have a great honey crop!

I love you guys! You make everything seem so easy. When just 30 minutes ago it was agonizing!

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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2013, 10:24:22 AM »

if you have a good flow and they are bringing stuff in, don't worry about it.  you know the drill.  give them a good week to settle in and then check for stores and eggs.   Wink

and see if you can post some pics.  i missed all of your adventures at buds.
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2013, 12:05:15 PM »

>1.  Should I keep putting the feed on them?  and

Constant feeding will make the smallest new package swarm when they have no business doing so.  Yours are not even taking it.  Obviously you don't need to feed.

>2.  If it gets a film of mold on the jar, should I remove it or can the bees handle it?  Should i make a stronger blend?

I always make 5:3, not 1:1.  1:1 does not keep well at all.  But if the bees are not taking it, I would throw it out and forget feeding until it's fall and then only if they are short of stores...
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2013, 12:14:24 PM »

Hey ziffabeek,

I am very new at this and I am talking about a pkg not a nuc or a split. I got my pkg on the 20th of April and since they have to build all the foundation I have been feeding ever since and they are still taking it. I was going to stop but with our weather being so messed up I didn't.

I will probably add the next brood chamber this weekend so I will probably keep feeding. I think the tulip poplar flow is about done but sweet privet hasn't started and I just saw the honeysuckle just starting. I do worry about the queen running out of room but I am trying my best to only go in once a week.

Like you I am having trouble deciding whether to stop feeding or keep on. I know the needs of raising brood are great and my queen is laying like mad. If the flow stops and they run out of stores they could get into trouble.

This is driving me crazy. But I love it too.

Like Michael I am scared that the feeding will make my pkg swarm when they have no business doing so.
The balancing  act is crazy.

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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2013, 12:34:43 PM »

"i]If the flow stops and they run out of stores they could get into trouble.[/i]"


If they "get in trouble" then you can start feeding at that time.  Don't worry about feeding now--when they won't even take it.  See what the flow produces.

And if you are having trouble with mold, you can add a bit of cider vinegar, Clorox, or some of the feeding additives which help keep the mold down.

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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2013, 02:49:01 PM »

>The balancing  act is crazy.

All of life is a balancing act.  You want "just right", not too much or too little...
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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2013, 12:12:11 PM »

It never hurts new installs to have feed out. If they don't
need/want it they won't take it. Especially if they need to draw
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2013, 08:05:43 PM »

Hey ziffabeek,

I am very new at this and I am talking about a pkg not a nuc or a split. I got my pkg on the 20th of April and since they have to build all the foundation I have been feeding ever since and they are still taking it. I was going to stop but with our weather being so messed up I didn't.

I will probably add the next brood chamber this weekend so I will probably keep feeding. I think the tulip poplar flow is about done but sweet privet hasn't started and I just saw the honeysuckle just starting. I do worry about the queen running out of room but I am trying my best to only go in once a week.

Like you I am having trouble deciding whether to stop feeding or keep on. I know the needs of raising brood are great and my queen is laying like mad. If the flow stops and they run out of stores they could get into trouble.

This is driving me crazy. But I love it too.

Like Michael I am scared that the feeding will make my pkg swarm when they have no business doing so.
The balancing  act is crazy.

David

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Don't let anybody stop your love. May it be forever. Only swarming can separate you from your package.
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