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« on: April 24, 2013, 09:25:44 AM »

Recent press release:  ...."Canadian families are now spending more money on taxes, than on food, clothing, and shelter combined, according to a new report from the Fraser Institute." ...

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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2013, 10:21:58 AM »

no different here, except we are spending more on other peoples food, clothing, and shelter, than ever before!    Undecided
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2013, 01:28:18 PM »

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"Canadian families are now spending more money on taxes, than on food, clothing, and shelter combined...


Did taxes go up that much, or did the cost of food, clothing, and shelter take a dive?
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2013, 06:26:39 PM »



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Did taxes go up that much, or did the cost of food, clothing, and shelter take a dive?
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2013, 07:38:24 PM »

Canada’s inflation rate is reported to be 1%.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-19/canada-inflation-rate-slows-to-1-in-march-on-gasoline.html

You might need to turn on the printing presses up there to reach the target rate of inflation of 2%.
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2013, 09:02:55 AM »

Canada’s inflation rate is reported to be 1%.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-19/canada-inflation-rate-slows-to-1-in-march-on-gasoline.html

You might need to turn on the printing presses up there to reach the target rate of inflation of 2%.


Comment on inflation in Canada ... gas prices go up=inflation goes up
                                                   gas prices come down=inflation comes down

The only thing keeping us out of the minus are rising costs of necessities ... oil, energy, rising taxes.
Standard of living is falling f'sure.

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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2013, 07:32:26 PM »

Blue is there a way to invest in the FOOD STAMP program it is growing more then any business I have heard of lately. I think one out of every five families is getting them now. rolleyes Up a bunch from the Bush years. tongue
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2013, 09:28:00 PM »

Haven't you heard?  Blue is a Moderate.  Now the heck would he know?  rolleyes  rolleyes
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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2013, 11:41:24 PM »

KingBee, yes, I am a moderate. 

Sterling , there are lots of ways to invest and make money off food stamps if you think that is the wave of the future.  You could buy some crop land and sell food to Obama.  You could buy shares of stock in food companies and grocery stores.  There’s probably even ETFs that specialize in the food supply sector.  You could open a futures account and trade the commodity food stuffs directly.  Lots of ways.   

Didn’t Hillary make 100K trading cattle futures in the 1990s?  Surely the right wings beeks know more about investing than Hillary?  Right?  laugh laugh laugh
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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2013, 11:52:27 PM »

  Surely the right wings beeks know more about investing than Hillary?  Right?  laugh laugh laugh


Yes, make yourself immune to insider trading laws - crush the competition of your chosen investment by literally regulating them to death while giving exemptions and exceptions to the one(s) you invested in.
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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2013, 12:24:40 AM »

Bee Happy, it sounds like you’re describing the Bankers and Bush Jr?

How exactly was Hillary 'crushing the competition' with her $1000 investment in 10 cattle future contracts?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_cattle_futures_controversy
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2013, 12:36:04 AM »

That was apparently the entire 3 branches. I'm pretty confident I'm in the general ballpark - as to specifics I'm sure someone with clean hands (Ha!) would have taken political advantage of that already.
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2013, 07:15:52 AM »

well actually Kingbee's question is more relevant to the question here than any thing I might add.

sometime it seem, so many people overlook the obvious.

and of course bluebee connection between the price of fuel and inflation is so on target that I suspect most of the folks wearing blinders will miss it all together.

Here (Texas) of course we have no problem with the rising level of taxes since we simple rename them as 'user fees'.
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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2013, 11:44:11 AM »

KingBee, yes, I am a moderate.  

Sterling , there are lots of ways to invest and make money off food stamps if you think that is the wave of the future.  You could buy some crop land and sell food to Obama.  You could buy shares of stock in food companies and grocery stores.  There’s probably even ETFs that specialize in the food supply sector.  You could open a futures account and trade the commodity food stuffs directly.  Lots of ways.  

Didn’t Hillary make 100K trading cattle futures in the 1990s?  Surely the right wings beeks know more about investing than Hillary?  Right?  laugh laugh laugh


So then Obama is using the food stamp program to boost our bad economy. He is taking money away from working people. giving it to people who do not work, people who illegally are in our country, people who are radicals, people who are frauds so they will spend it on food, gunpowder, pressure cookers, strip clubs, gambling casinos and tattoo parlors so the Obama donators can get richer and donate more. And if I invest in one of these businesses who produce things that the SNAP and EBT card carriers frequent I will get rich and be a 1%er also.
Pretty slick, thanks Blue
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2013, 04:52:14 PM »

“Delusion” is a belief held with strong conviction despite superior evidence to the contrary.

Now that we have that definition out of the way, please provide me a link showing where food stamps are used to get into strip clubs?

And no, you won’t become a 1%er by buying stocks on the retail market.   If you want to become a 1%er you need to be a Wall Street Insider.  You need to get in pre IPO.  Are you ready to move to the big city with all those liberals?  Smiley
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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2013, 07:16:38 PM »

“Delusion” is a belief held with strong conviction despite superior evidence to the contrary.

Now that we have that definition out of the way, please provide me a link showing where food stamps are used to get into strip clubs?

And no, you won’t become a 1%er by buying stocks on the retail market.   If you want to become a 1%er you need to be a Wall Street Insider.  You need to get in pre IPO.  Are you ready to move to the big city with all those liberals?  Smiley


NY POST
Welfare recipients took out cash at bars, liquor stores, X-rated video shops, hookah parlors and even strip clubs — where they presumably spent their taxpayer money on lap dances rather than diapers, a Post investigation found.

A database of 200 million Electronic Benefit Transfer records from January 2011 to July 2012, obtained by The Post through a Freedom of Information request, showed welfare recipients using their EBT cards to make dozens of cash withdrawals at ATMs inside Hank’s Saloon in Brooklyn; the Blue Door Video porn shop in the East Village; The Anchor, a sleek SoHo lounge; the Patriot Saloon in TriBeCa; and Drinks Galore, a liquor distributor in The Bronx


It was in NY it  has been on the news. Google EBT cards at strip clubs for more info.

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« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2013, 10:10:14 PM »

OK, Sterling, I’m a big enough man to admit when I'm wrong.  Please accept my apologizes. 

That said, I’m just amazed the EBT cards aren’t locked into a grocery store chain(s) if their purpose is to put food on the table.  Why not just give out vouchers for Krogers, Publix, Piggly Wiggly, or whatever your local grocery store is?  Put the dang IRS in charge of that program! 

I would vote to make it a one strike and you’re out program.  You see, I am a moderate after all. applause 
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« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2013, 04:38:39 PM »

The only way to make MONEY off of food stamps is to open a convenience store or even better an organic green grocery then use your store's eligibility to accept EBD cards or food stamps to trade for either cash, liquor, or cigarettes at a discount, them redeem the stamps or EIB transactions at face value.  Millions of people do this every month, often in order to buy or even sell illegal drugs to the beneficiaries.
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« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2013, 07:53:31 PM »

People around here sell their food stamps for 60-70 Cent on the dollar. I have had tenants offer to pay their rent with them. If you can afford to sell them, you do not need them to eat.

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« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2013, 08:02:23 PM »

at least with the old food stamps you could only redeem them for food.  with the card, you can get cash and spend it on anything.  years ago, CA tried to have an aproved list of groceris that could be purchased with food stamps.  the dogooders stepped in and stopped it. why?  because it would make the food stamp people feel bad.  why don't we have food stamps anymore?  because using food stamps make the people feel bad. 

i want them to feel bad.  that way they will do their best to get off the EBT card.  it's not anyones job to make someone feel good with the hard earned money taken from others. 
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