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« on: March 20, 2013, 11:19:41 PM »

A friend can get me all the food grade buckets I want for FREE. grin The catch is they had pickles in them. huh Can I rinse them with Clorox so I can use them for HONEY?
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2013, 11:31:12 PM »

How about this!
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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2013, 11:31:39 PM »

I wouldn't. I have a gallon glass pickle jar that has been empty and washed for 3 years.
Can still smell pickles when I take the top off.
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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2013, 11:36:44 PM »

I wouldn't. I have a gallon glass pickle jar that has been empty and washed for 3 years.
Can still smell pickles when I take the top off.
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This was my original thought...A food grade 5 gallon bucket is $3.97 at Lowes...How many do you need?  Is it really worth chancing it?
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2013, 07:46:28 AM »

I may be wrong, but I have a hard time believing that Lowes has food grade buckets.

We live in Leominster (home  of Plastican) and asked a former exec about the food grade vs non food grade.  The difference (in their case) is how the bucket is handled after it is molded...the same plastic, the same mold...but are the workers wearing gloves?  Are the buckets stacked/stored in such a way as to not pick up contamination?

So, I'm sure the plastic is the same plastic as the "food grade" buckets...but I doubt our health inspectors (city or state) would accept them as food grade.

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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2013, 08:43:14 AM »

But deknow, that would mean all the dishes and cookware at places like walmart, Sears, etc., could not be considered "food safe", too...right?  I believe it has a lot to do with plastic purity and what type of mold release compound is used and...everything to do with how they're manufactured rather than "after the fact".

Lowe's has white plastic buckets that come with a "FOOD GRADE!" sticker attached to them, so there must be something that allows them to wear that badge.  They also have white buckets that do not have the sticker.  The problem I'm having is coming up with good lids for the buckets...all that I've found at Lowe's has been the little short-lipped blue lids but they don't seem to seal very well.

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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2013, 08:48:27 AM »

I may be wrong, but I have a hard time believing that Lowes has food grade buckets.

We live in Leominster (home  of Plastican) and asked a former exec about the food grade vs non food grade.  The difference (in their case) is how the bucket is handled after it is molded...the same plastic, the same mold...but are the workers wearing gloves?  Are the buckets stacked/stored in such a way as to not pick up contamination?

So, I'm sure the plastic is the same plastic as the "food grade" buckets...but I doubt our health inspectors (city or state) would accept them as food grade.

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Unless I'm missing something....Yeah!  I'd say you're wrong.   Smiley

Encore Plastics 5-Gallon Food Grade Bucket

As I said, they're $3.97....Their 5 Gallon Buckets not labeled as food grade are $2.78.  Link
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2013, 08:56:54 AM »

All plastic products are stamped, designating there use. I think usda website has these listed. Triangle with a #1 inset pete below,, triangle, #2 inset hdpe below, are designated for food use, there are others. The material they are constructed from, how much heat and  abuse it will stand  determines this..
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2013, 09:28:52 AM »

I'm not too sure about that.  I believe the stamp on the bottom is basically a recycling mark telling recyclers which group of plastics that it can be recycled in.  The triangle does point to different plastics, though, as you stated with some plastics being better than others.  A bucket marked "2" I don't believe is necessarily "food grade" because of that marking.  If it's not expressly marked "food grade" then it isn't....though the bucket may very well be safe to use.  Your choice.  Wink

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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2013, 09:43:37 AM »

I get all my buckets with lids from local bakeries.   They get things like frosting and jelly filling in them. 
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2013, 10:04:07 AM »

A bucket is a bucket.....the important thing is it should be clean and sanitized before being used to store anything.  It doesn't matter what material the bucket is made from.
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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2013, 10:12:39 AM »

A bucket is a bucket.....the important thing is it should be clean and sanitized before being used to store anything.  It doesn't matter what material the bucket is made from.


I don't think that's true!

Some may find this link helpful: How to Identify Food Grade Buckets
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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2013, 10:34:49 AM »

don't know about Lowes, but HD has food grade buckets.  that's where i got my last.  they are tagged food grade. 
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2013, 10:48:33 AM »

Yes, Lowes and several others have them.  Walmart has them cheaper, same bucket except doesn't have Lowes on the side, it's just plain white.  I hate to help wall world, another story, but if you sell or put up your honey in jars their Main Stay brand are about the cheapest I've found.  They are also smooth, easier for labels.




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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2013, 10:55:17 AM »

FRED's has the "Harvest" line of jars and they have three smooth sides.  I'm not sure about cost comparison with Wallyworld's jars, though.

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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2013, 11:37:00 AM »

had not thought to look at wal-mart.  don't have one to close.  i like them a lot so i don't mind doing business with them   grin
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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2013, 12:36:47 PM »

Could use them for feeders if you open feed. Good for storage of old comb until you melt it. Also use for watering trees and other plants in summer. Lots of other uses for free buckets. Make good swarm catchers as well. grin
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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2013, 01:23:13 PM »

Thank You for the info.  :th_thumbsupup:I will start checking some of the areas suggested (bakeries and such).
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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2013, 01:34:25 PM »

Sorry if this diverges a bit from the op, but it does relate to pickles.  Is it ok to he old pickle jars for feeding?  I can understand not storing honey in a bucket smelling of pickles, but an old pickle jar should be ok right?
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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2013, 03:25:02 PM »

I get all my buckets with lids from local bakeries.   They get things like frosting and jelly filling in them. 
maybe I should have added there FREE
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