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Re: Bees Removed From Raised Camp Style Home
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2013, 12:08:59 PM »
Not bad at all.   You just keep that up!!!!!!! 8-)
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2013, 12:49:04 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2013, 03:01:29 PM »
Great video.   I noticed at the beginning when you first showed the open hive, that 2 of the honey comb sections were broken.   JP, you weren't eating that honey before starting were you?  Great video. 

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Re: Bees Removed From Raised Camp Style Home
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2013, 05:14:12 PM »
Straight forward removal that looked deceivingly easy.  That queen looked to be cold, completely stressed, or both.  Is she up and running or have you been able to check?
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Re: Bees Removed From Raised Camp Style Home
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2013, 11:39:52 PM »
Nice. I like the guitar music.  Was that some good honey?

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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2013, 11:58:06 PM »
Very nice. As always, very informative. Thanks.
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Re: Bees Removed From Raised Camp Style Home
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2013, 12:21:46 PM »
Where did you get the new vacuum box design?

Liked how you added the vacuum bees over the brood box.

How soon do you pull the vacuum box off?

Do all the bees move down alright? I could see where if you accidentally vacuumed up the queen you might have a mass of bees that want to stick to the lid.

Does it have a similar top like Rob's design?

Thanks, another great video.

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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2013, 06:02:22 PM »
Sweet vac/brood box set up.   Thanks for the video.
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Re: Bees Removed From Raised Camp Style Home
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2013, 02:54:32 PM »
The queen is fine, she was just a little cold, no worries.

The vacuum is from a guy in Denver. I'll have more info on it soon enough. I had some input on the design. It and Robo's are my favorite vacs around.

The honey from this hive was very good and my bees loved it!  :-D


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Re: Bees Removed From Raised Camp Style Home
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2013, 08:19:07 PM »
Fabulous video, so much fun to watch. I had a smile on my face watching this one.

You are doing so great JP and I am loving it.

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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2013, 12:46:42 AM »
Sure been a while since I've heard that sweet voice of yours in person Annette. Sure wish you and Aron could make it down sometime for one of the Bud gatherings.


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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2013, 07:35:57 PM »
That is really nice JP. Aron would never go, but perhaps one day I can make it alone.

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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2013, 07:28:16 AM »
Hello, JP and friends! I don't know how you think to do both a video and still images in the midst of a removal, JP. Impressive.

I'm interested in the new vacuum design, too, though I doubt anything will keep me from killing so many bees during removals. I've tried both the Walter Kelly vac and the Robo vac, and I still have a good-sized pile of wet and dead bees in the end. Which means I seldom have a viable hive once the removal is complete...I end up combining the cut out with a strong hive and using the queen for splits or in queenless hives. HELP.

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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2013, 09:53:32 AM »
JP, ever thought about mounting the GoPro on the vac hose for up close video?   Great video.  

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« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2013, 09:56:34 AM »
Liz, I find that you will always have a few dead bees no matter which brand of vacuum you are using. If you are having a large wet clump, you are vacuuming up to much nectar and honey with the bees. Try turning the suction down till you just lift them off the comb. I sometimes use smoke to run them off the comb, then vacuum them up.

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Re: Bees Removed From Raised Camp Style Home
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2013, 11:46:01 AM »
Liz, I find that you will always have a few dead bees no matter which brand of vacuum you are using. If you are having a large wet clump, you are vacuuming up to much nectar and honey with the bees. Try turning the suction down till you just lift them off the comb. I sometimes use smoke to run them off the comb, then vacuum them up.


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« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2013, 12:47:01 PM »
Yes...I'm definitely vacuuming honey and nectar with the bees. Sometimes my vacuum even lifts the cap from the brood! But, I tell you, I already have the suction set very low. Perhaps running them off the combs with smoke and then vacuuming them is my answer. I'll try it and tell you how it goes, tefer2. Thanks.

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« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2013, 01:51:53 PM »
Great video.  Thanks for taking time to make it.

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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2013, 10:06:56 AM »
Liz, I find a round hose end seems to work the best for me.
I tried a crevice tool end, and it sucks up a lot more than bees.
Open your flapper more and see if that helps.

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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2013, 10:59:13 AM »
http://www.coloradobeerescue.com/bee-vacuum.html

Try simply shaking the bees off any honey comb sections. You can shake and vacuum bees off brood comb as well but always good to transfer a number of bees on the comb sections you are securing in your frames and placing in the set up so they can tend to brood and keep temps up.


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« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2013, 10:34:29 PM »
JP,
I ordered my bee vac this afternoon. Looking forward to it. :-D

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« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2013, 11:04:43 PM »
I know you will like it, its awesome!


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« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2013, 01:34:42 AM »
I am a beginner and will be attempting to get bees out of two houses on our property.  I'm down near the Mexico border and these bees are very protective.  If I get within 10' of the hole they will come after me.  I ordered a Robo Beevac and until it and the hives get here, I will be watching a lot more videos. So you put the brood comb in the frames in a different hive, then the vacuumed-up ones, and then stack them up and mix together? I need to watch more.

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« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2013, 06:03:36 PM »
You might be dealing with bee that have African genetics.  Not sure you want to keep such bees.  Others might have better thoughts. We don't have them up here. . .yet.

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« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2013, 11:41:28 PM »
I am a beginner and will be attempting to get bees out of two houses on our property.  I'm down near the Mexico border and these bees are very protective.  If I get within 10' of the hole they will come after me.  I ordered a Robo Beevac and until it and the hives get here, I will be watching a lot more videos. So you put the brood comb in the frames in a different hive, then the vacuumed-up ones, and then stack them up and mix together? I need to watch more.

If they are African bees in a residential area and they are not removed properly, you can cause some pretty serious problems for anyone or animals within several hundred feet of the hive. The bees will attack people in another area completely separate of the hive area.
I recommend you contact a qualified AFB remover before attempting to do this. Talk to your state inspector. He should have some training. They had a class at our bee college this year. I didn't take the class but the problems were brought up later in another class.
If you do the removal, you will need to have a queen ready and an isolated location for this hive to give it time to call down.
This is not a newbee job.
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Re: Bees Removed From Raised Camp Style Home
« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2013, 12:05:16 AM »
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Thanks. Fortunately they are at our ranch, which is very secluded. I may have to call in professional to do this.  The one hive is in the wall or roof of our hunting lodge and I don't want anyone to get attacked by accidentally walking around the side of the lodge.  I don't have an epi pen but I'm planning on having one just in case.  When you say I need to have a queen ready, do you mean a bought queen?

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« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2013, 12:29:04 AM »
Karl, what he means is if thy are AHB you will want to change the genetics of the colony by killing their queen and leaving the colony queen less for a day or so for them to realize they are queen less. Then you will introduce a mated queen (caged) with known gentle genetics. After a few days you should be able to release the new queen and they should accept her. It will take approximately six weeks to see a turn around in the colony's temperament as the old bees are replaced with the new.

Take proper precautions and tread carefully.

Best of luck!


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« Reply #28 on: May 02, 2013, 12:48:52 PM »
Ah, now I see. Thanks.  I don't think I'll be attempting this cutout without a full suit in contrast to your videos without anything! btw your videos are very informative and too bad I'm too far from New Orleans or I'd have you do it.

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« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2013, 08:14:21 PM »
JP,

Great video my friend. Really nice vac too. I'll look forward to hearing more about that for sure. Hey a couple of questions. What type of camera are you using and are you using a tripod?

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« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2013, 09:48:52 AM »
Sony HDR-CX260V with tripod.


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