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Offline ThePlot

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The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« on: March 08, 2013, 02:59:54 PM »
So, I am new to beekeeping and I am noticing a trend i don't see in other interests. This trend is one of great quotes!

So from Francis Bacon "Read not to contradict nor to believe, but to weigh and consider"

And from a forum member's signature, "Trust those who seek the truth, doubt those who say they've found it."

So is this just my own personal sampling bias, or is there some substance to my observation?
Enjoy!

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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2013, 10:30:46 AM »
I always heard it as a prayer:
"Lord, lead me into the company of those who seek the truth and protect me from those who have found it."--?

Here are a few of my favorites:
"The bulk of the world’s knowledge is an imaginary construction."--Helen Keller

"One does not divine the ways of nature, it lays out methods that confound our science, and it is only by studying it carefully that we may succeed in unveiling some of its mysteries."--Francis Huber, New Observations on Bees Volume II

"Contradiction is not a sign of falsity, nor the lack of contradiction a sign of truth." --Blaise Pascal

"People are usually more convinced by reasons they discovered themselves than by those found by others."--Blaise Pascal

" 'Tis with our judgments as our watches, none go just alike, yet each believes his own." --Alexander Pope

"When we wish to correct with advantage and to show another that he errs, we must notice from what side he views the matter, for on that side it is usually true, and admit that truth to him, but reveal to him the side on which it is false. He is satisfied with that, for he sees that he was not mistaken and that he only failed to see all sides. Now, no one is offended at not seeing everything; but one does not like to be mistaken, and that perhaps arises from the fact that man naturally cannot see everything, and that naturally he cannot err in the side he looks at, since the perceptions of our senses are always true." --Blaise Pascal
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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2013, 01:08:34 PM »
Life is like a mountain railroad

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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2013, 02:21:00 PM »
 :-D

maybe it's just that they gave us a spot for the stuff and we fill it?
.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2013, 02:43:31 PM »
“It is far easier to cut and paste the words created by another than it is to create your own.” - Sundog
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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2013, 03:00:31 PM »
"If your only tool is a hammer - stay away from circular saws." Me - I can do this all day. (also me)
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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2013, 03:13:28 PM »
“It is far easier to cut and paste the words created by another than it is to create your own.” - Sundog
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        Its called sharing.     :) 

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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2013, 01:27:14 AM »
Give me liberty or give me death.
Quite difficult matters can be explained even to a slow-witted man, if only he has not already adopted a wrong opinion about them; but the simplest things cannot be made clear even to a very intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he already knows, and knows indubitably, the truth of the matter under consideration. -Leo Tolstoy

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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2013, 01:56:07 AM »
"Every diminution of the public burdens arising from taxation gives to individual enterprise increased power and furnishes to all the members of our happy confederacy new motives for patriotic affection and support."

--- The seventh Pesident of the United States, Andrew Jackson.

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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2013, 07:56:48 AM »
Don't confuse me with facts,my mind is made up.

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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2013, 12:19:40 PM »
Its called sharing.     :) 

Not much of a "great quote".

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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2013, 03:53:51 PM »
Its called sharing.     :) 

Not much of a "great quote".

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    Ok...ok... "The wind blows free...." wait, I better not use that one....."If a tree falls..".. not that one either.....ok here is an old stand by.  " There are two sides to every story, somewhere in the middle is the truth ".

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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2013, 12:03:19 AM »
Here is one of my own.  It's in my signature line.
The greatest source of stress in my life is ops.   Other people's stupidity.

Another one from my father ( I'm sure he didn't make this up)

It is better to keep ones mouth shut and be thought of as a fool than to open ones mouth and in so doing remove all doubt.

Bailey.
most often i find my greatest source of stress to be OPS  ( other peoples stupidity )

It is better to keep ones mouth shut and be thought of as a fool than to open ones mouth and in so doing remove all doubt.

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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2013, 12:12:07 AM »
My personal favorite came from My mom. I don't know if she made it up or it was a quote?

LIVE FOR TODAY.

DREAM OF TOMMOROW.

LEARN FORM YESTERDAY.

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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2013, 09:38:04 AM »
>It is better to keep ones mouth shut and be thought of as a fool than to open ones mouth and in so doing remove all doubt.

I have heard it attributed to Abraham Lincoln and Mark Twain.  According to this, it's hard to say:

http://ask.yahoo.com/20010115.html

But since there are many variations, I would say the actual original source is Proverbs 17:28 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.
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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2013, 09:55:13 AM »
"Watch this, Bubba!"
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American blood spilled to protect the freedom and peace of people all over the world.  320,000 USA casualties in WWI, 1,076,000 USA casualties in WWII, 128,000 USA casualties in the Korean War, 211,000 casualties in the Vietnam "conflict", 57,000 USA casualties in "War on Terror".  Benghazi, Libya, 13 USA casualties. These figures don't include 70,000 MIA.  But, the leaders of one political party of the United States of America continue to make the statement..."What difference does it make?".

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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2013, 10:06:42 AM »
"Here's a quarter, go play on the tollway." -- Mom

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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2013, 10:47:36 AM »
"Here's a quarter, go play on the tollway." -- Mom

Reminds me of the old one we use to use all the time as kids...."Here's a quarter, go and call somebody that cares"

Ironic because kids today, probably never having seen a pay phone, wouldn't have a clue what that means.  :)

Along those same lines...
Called my mother one day at her house, my little niece answered the phone and I asked to speak to grandmother.  She told me she couldn't go get her because she was on the phone with the wire.  She had answered on the bedroom phone, as opposed to the cordless one in the living area of the house.
I told her, baby, let me explain how we use to do this in the old days...Set the phone down, BUT DON'T HANG IT UP, go and tell Grandmother that I'm on this phone, and she will come and get it.   She was truly amazed and followed my directions to a T!  Amazing!!!  :-D
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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2013, 01:50:23 PM »
I saw a lady getting frustrated because the little plastic thing with the button wouldn't open her door.  She was thinking about calling a locksmith.  I told her to try the key...
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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2013, 08:24:06 PM »
I saw a lady getting frustrated because the little plastic thing with the button wouldn't open her door.  She was thinking about calling a locksmith.  I told her to try the key...

I have seen it too often. I have also went on lockout callas to open car doors and they forgot about the remote in purse/pocket.

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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2013, 04:10:38 AM »
I saw a lady getting frustrated because the little plastic thing with the button wouldn't open her door.  She was thinking about calling a locksmith.  I told her to try the key...

I have seen it too often. I have also went on lockout callas to open car doors and they forgot about the remote in purse/pocket.

We had a woman call 911 the other day in a full blown panic...she was having car trouble, and had pulled on the shoulder before her car had quit running.  She explained to the dispatcher that she was locked "IN"  the vehicle and could not get out, she said she was trying to remain calm so that she wouldn't run out of air.   The dispatcher calmed her down and talked her through manually unlocking the car door....UNBELIEVABLE!  :)
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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2013, 01:04:26 PM »

We had a woman call 911 the other day in a full blown panic...she was having car trouble, and had pulled on the shoulder before her car had quit running.  She explained to the dispatcher that she was locked "IN"  the vehicle and could not get out, she said she was trying to remain calm so that she wouldn't run out of air.   The dispatcher calmed her down and talked her through manually unlocking the car door....UNBELIEVABLE!  :)

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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2013, 10:51:49 AM »
As Hardwood well knows, us music types can only count to 12 and spell up to G, so we really only use philosophy on the garden to make the plants grow better.

Here are a couple of quotes I liked from musical people and kept hold of.

Bluegrass, the real stuff, hits you like a fist in the gut when it's right...it'll make you cry in your vino when it's right...it's a habit, and addiction, a feeling deep inside that evokes the deepest of emotion  - WHEN IT's RIGHT!  - Virginia Lee

You can keep your fancy jazz licks, your record setting banjo duels, what really sets the men apart from the boys (so to speak), is the ability to make your banjo sound like a chicken. - Don Borchelt

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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2013, 01:19:12 PM »
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...she was having car trouble, and had pulled on the shoulder before her car... quit...  She explained to the dispatcher that she was locked "IN"  the vehicle and could not get out, she said she was trying to remain calm so that she wouldn't run out of air.   The dispatcher calmed her down and talked her through manually unlocking the car door....UNBELIEVABLE!  :)

Unfortunately I find it much to much BELIEVABLE!

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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2013, 03:17:54 PM »
:fishhit: Only dead fish go with the flow :fishhit:

Some times this gets me into trouble beecause I usually look what every body else is doing and do the opposite  :-D sometimes its very interesting  :-D


mvh edward  :-P

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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2013, 07:28:39 AM »

"Work is the curse of the drinking class"- Oscar Wilde


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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2013, 04:17:35 PM »
"Liquor has saved me from sports and exercise"

Old lads in the boat harbor



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Re: The philosophical inclination of beekeepers
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2013, 11:37:44 AM »
Dance like no one is watching.
Laugh like it will stop the rain.
Love like it will heal the world.

Had to throw a hippy one in here for all you darn conservatives ;p.  :D 

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