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Offline Jim 134

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Re: Early queen rearing
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2013, 05:12:03 AM »
1. The packages we see around here are not shaken through an excluder...there are drones in the packages.

2.  If it is the overwintered local feral population you are hoping to get drones from, they will probably produce drones later than the overwintered kept bees (package genetics?) that are fed in early spring.

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Most ALL package bees sold in the USA are not shaken through an excluder...




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Re: Early queen rearing
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2013, 11:18:33 AM »
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I too am wanting to push for early queens as a way at trying to beat out the africanized genetics in my area.  What I have done is to provide the girls with foundationless and or drone comb to them in the fall.  Then I have been feeding them like mad.  I am hopeful that since they are being fed and feeling pretty sure of themselves they will start to produce an abundance of drones "early."  This would then allow me to graft queens and give me a better chance of them mating with genetics I prefer.
I am still pretty new and have alot to learn and foul up before I get it right, but I think we have the same goal.
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Re: Early queen rearing
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2013, 12:00:29 PM »
beesnweeds
I too am wanting to push for early queens as a way at trying to beat out the africanized genetics in my area.  What I have done is to provide the girls with foundationless and or drone comb to them in the fall.  Then I have been feeding them like mad.  I am hopeful that since they are being fed and feeling pretty sure of themselves they will start to produce an abundance of drones "early."  This would then allow me to graft queens and give me a better chance of them mating with genetics I prefer.
I am still pretty new and have alot to learn and foul up before I get it right, but I think we have the same goal.
Jason

Do you know african drones fly early in the day and are faster on the queens ???



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Re: Early queen rearing
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2013, 12:18:51 PM »
I did not know about them flying earlier but did hear they were faster than European drones
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Re: Early queen rearing
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2013, 02:55:53 PM »
I did not know about them flying earlier but did hear they were faster than European drones
About at 1 Hr.or so.



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 John F. Kennedy
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