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Offline Intheswamp

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Southeast...fruit trees blooming, freeze this weekend...
« on: February 28, 2013, 05:18:11 PM »
Here in my area of south central Alabama the next two nights' lows are predicted to be 32F.  Sunday and Monday mornings are supposed to be in the upper 20F's.  Lots of the fruit trees in the area are well into bloom as are other things.  Not sure how bad it will be on them.  :(

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Re: Southeast...fruit trees blooming, freeze this weekend...
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2013, 08:21:50 PM »
Fingers crossed up here, too.
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Re: Southeast...fruit trees blooming, freeze this weekend...
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2013, 09:54:48 PM »
Normally here, we get our last frost closer to Easter.  About when the blueberries start to bloom every year. 

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Re: Southeast...fruit trees blooming, freeze this weekend...
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2013, 10:28:05 PM »
from my S. Cal experience with citrus, they can usually take a lite freeze.  other fruit trees can also.  my stuff often blooms here and survives several frosts.  apples, cherries, plumbs, pears....
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Re: Southeast...fruit trees blooming, freeze this weekend...
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2013, 12:39:48 AM »
I hear ya on the Easter snap...don't plant the 'maters before Easter. ;)

Looks like they're calling for 27F Sunday morning and Monday morning.

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Re: Southeast...fruit trees blooming, freeze this weekend...
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2013, 02:35:26 AM »
plums survived the hit last week up here.  you'll probably be ok.

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Re: Southeast...fruit trees blooming, freeze this weekend...
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2013, 10:53:03 AM »
 :? Ok, they're now predicting snow flurries tonight and in the morning....still 32F predicted for tonight but they've raised the temp for Sunday and Monday mornings up a degree to 28F.  We'll see...

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Re: Southeast...fruit trees blooming, freeze this weekend...
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2013, 02:00:16 PM »
snow is better.  it insulates.  i'd much rather have snow on everything than dry cold.
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Re: Southeast...fruit trees blooming, freeze this weekend...
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2013, 02:33:23 PM »
We're about the same here Ed.  They are predicting possible flurries tonight. 




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Re: Southeast...fruit trees blooming, freeze this weekend...
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2013, 03:10:16 PM »
Looks like we'll fair a little better!

Although, now that I've become a weather watcher b/c of the bees....somethings just don't make sense and really bother me! 

According to weather.com, the 10-day forecast shows the Gonzales, LA forecast as follows: 

Saturday with a high of 53° and a low of 32°...Yet, the same website on it's hourly forecast for the entire day of Saturday never shows the temperature below 38°.  :?

They show Sunday with a high of 57° and a low of 41°, yet the hourly forecast extending into Sunday morning shows the temperature at 5AM as  33°  :?

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Re: Southeast...fruit trees blooming, freeze this weekend...
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2013, 05:37:21 PM »
Looks like we'll fair a little better!

Although, now that I've become a weather watcher b/c of the bees....somethings just don't make sense and really bother me!  

According to weather.com, the 10-day forecast shows the Gonzales, LA forecast as follows:  

Saturday with a high of 53° and a low of 32°...Yet, the same website on it's hourly forecast for the entire day of Saturday never shows the temperature below 38°.  :?

They show Sunday with a high of 57° and a low of 41°, yet the hourly forecast extending into Sunday morning shows the temperature at 5AM as  33°  :?








The Saturday low is actually for Saturday night and the Sunday low is for Sunday night. So the low it shows for Saturday is actually Sunday morning.  
I see how this can be confusing. I hope this clears it up.
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Re: Southeast...fruit trees blooming, freeze this weekend...
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2013, 05:50:04 PM »
The Saturday low is actually for Saturday night and the Sunday low is for Sunday night. So the low it shows for Saturday is actually Sunday morning.  
I see how this can be confusing. I hope this clears it up.

Gov,
I had thought about that as a possible explanation...so, if "Saturday" isn't truly "Saturday", midnight to midnight, what's the cutoff???

Are they on a 05:00 to 05:00, 06:00 to 06:00, 07:00 to 07:00, or later definition of a "day"...Sunday morning doesn't get above 41° until after 08:00!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not losing sleep over it, just one of those things that make me go Hmm, What's up with that?
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Re: Southeast...fruit trees blooming, freeze this weekend...
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2013, 05:55:36 PM »
I really don't think it has a time cutoff. It is just saying Saturday night will get to 32. If you click on details for each day on the 10 day forecast page, the low will be for that day's night.
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Re: Southeast...fruit trees blooming, freeze this weekend...
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2013, 07:07:36 PM »
Wow that helped a lot.  :-D

Now everything is clear as mud.  :lau: :lau: :lau: :lau:

Now my head hurts.  Toooo much thinking. :)
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Re: Southeast...fruit trees blooming, freeze this weekend...
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2013, 07:21:12 PM »
I really don't think it has a time cutoff. It is just saying Saturday night will get to 32. If you click on details for each day on the 10 day forecast page, the low will be for that day's night.

Gov,
LOL! I hear you...and not to  :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: BUT....

If they're going to say "Saturday night will get to 32", at some point, don't they have to define what's "Saturday night" ???  Personally, I think a day starts and ends at midnight.  But hey, they can pick any 24 hour chunk they want to call a day, but shouldn't that be a constant and a known variable?

My apologies for hijacking the thread...maybe unraveling this mystery of life is worthy of it's own thread??? On second thought, probably not!  :-D
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Re: Southeast...fruit trees blooming, freeze this weekend...
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2013, 10:21:48 PM »
Yep,
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Re: Southeast...fruit trees blooming, freeze this weekend...
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2013, 10:33:39 PM »
Yep,
 I dont make the rules i just follow them

I'm willing to follow them...I just want to KNOW them!  :-D
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Re: Southeast...fruit trees blooming, freeze this weekend...
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2013, 12:20:56 AM »
Michigan is the 3rd largest apple growing state in the nation.  We had 90% losses last year from our warm March followed by a cold spell while blooming.  90% losses, some $100 million down the tubes.  Not a single apple on my trees and I’ve got a bunch of bee hives next to them.  Same thing with cherries.  Despite wishful thinking by beeks, Physics still wins.

http://climatecrocks.com/2012/06/30/apple-crop-destroyed-90-percent-loss-in-michigan-ontario-due-to-bizarre-spring-deniers-more-co2-needed/

http://blog.syracuse.com/farms/2012/07/michigan_tart_cherry_crop_near.html

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Re: Southeast...fruit trees blooming, freeze this weekend...
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2013, 07:48:10 AM »
100% loss of fruit here last year, warm march then a freeze, 1st time we had seen this, so it can happen..

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Re: Southeast...fruit trees blooming, freeze this weekend...
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2013, 12:23:52 PM »
My thermometer shows it got down to 31F last night...a degree colder than predicted.  They have dropped the low in the morning back down to 27F but raised the low Monday morning to 29F.  After that a gradual warm-up. 

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