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Long, but a very good read
« on: February 21, 2013, 06:20:18 PM »

                        Salute the Danish Flag - it's a Symbol of   Western Freedom
                        By Susan MacAllen

                        In 1978-9 I was living and studying in   Denmark . But in 1978 - even in Copenhagen , one didn't see Muslim immigrants.

                        The Danish population embraced visitors, celebrated the exotic, went  out of its way to protect each of its citizens. It was proud of its new  brand of socialist liberalism one in development since the conservatives had  lost power in 1929 - a system where no worker had to struggle to survive,  where one ultimately could count upon the state as in, perhaps, no other  western nation at the time.

                        The rest of Europe  saw the Scandinavians as free-thinking, progressive  and infinitely generous in their welfare policies. Denmark boasted low crime  rates, devotion to the environment, a superior educational system and a history of humanitarianism.

                        Denmark was also most generous in its immigration policies - it  offered the best welcome in Europe to the new immigrant: generous welfare  payments from first arrival plus additional perks in transportation, housing  and education. It was determined to set a world example for inclusiveness  and multiculturalism.  How could it have predicted that one day in 2005 a series of political cartoons in a newspaper would spark violence that would leave dozens dead in  the streets - all because its commitment to multiculturalism would come back  to bite?

                        By the 1990's the growing urban Muslim population was obvious - and   its unwillingness to integrate into Danish society was obvious.  Years of immigrants had settled into Muslim-exclusive enclaves. As the Muslim leadership became more vocal about what they considered the decadence  of Denmark 's liberal way of life, the Danes - once so welcoming - began to feel slighted. Many Danes had begun to see Islam as incompatible with their long-standing values: belief in personal liberty and free speech, inequality for women, intolerance for other ethnic groups, and a deep pride  in Danish heritage and history.

                        An article by Daniel Pipes and Lars  Hedegaard, in which they forecasted, accurately, that the growing immigrant problem in Denmark would explode. In the article they reported:

                        'Muslim immigrants constitute 5 percent of the population but consume  upwards of 40 percent of the welfare spending.'
                        'Muslims are only 4 percent of Denmark's 5.4 million people but make  up a majority of the country's convicted rapists, an especially combustible issue given that practically all the female victims are non-Muslim. Similar, if lesser, disproportions are found in other crimes.'

                        'Over time, as Muslim immigrants increase in numbers, they wish less  to mix with the indigenous population.  A recent survey finds that only 5 percent of young Muslim immigrants would readily marry a Dane.'

                        'Forced marriages - promising a newborn daughter in Denmark to a male  cousin in the home country, then compelling her to marry him, sometimes on  pain of death - are one problem.'

                        'Muslim leaders openly declare their goal of introducing Islamic law once Denmark 's Muslim population grows large enough - a not-that-remote prospect. If present trends persist, one sociologist estimates, every third inhabitant of   Denmark in 40 years will be Muslim.'

                        It is easy to understand why a growing number of Danes would feel that   Muslim immigrants show little respect for Danish values and laws.
                        An example is the phenomenon common to other European countries the US and Canada some Muslims in Denmark who opted to leave the Muslim faith have been murdered in the name of Islam, while others hide in fear for their  lives. Jews are also threatened and harassed openly by Muslim leaders  in Denmark, a country where once Christian citizens worked to smuggle out nearly all of their 7,000 Jews by night to Sweden - before the Nazis could  invade. I think of my Danish friend Elsa - who, as a teenager, had dreaded crossing the street to the bakery every morning under the eyes of occupying  Nazi soldiers - and I wonder what she would say today.

                        In 2001, Denmark elected the most conservative government in some 70  years - one that had some decidedly non-generous ideas about liberal unfettered immigration. Today, Denmark has the strictest immigration policies  in Europe . (Its effort to protect itself has been met with accusations of  'racism' by liberal media across Europe - even as other governments struggle to right the social problems wrought by years of too-lax immigration.)

                        If you wish to become Danish, you must attend three years of language  classes. You must pass a test on   Denmark 's history, culture, and a Danish language test.

                        You must live in   Denmark for 7 years before applying for citizenship.

                        You must demonstrate an intent to work, and have a job waiting. If you wish  to bring a spouse into Denmark , you must both be over 24 years of age, and  you won't find it so easy anymore to move your friends and family to   Denmark with you.

                        You will not be allowed to build a mosque in Copenhagen .. Although your  children have a choice of some 30 Arabic culture and language schools  in Denmark , they will be strongly encouraged to assimilate to Danish society   in ways that past immigrants weren't.

                        In 2006, the Danish minister for employment, Claus Hjort Frederiksen,  spoke publicly of the burden of Muslim immigrants on the Danish welfare  system, and it was horrifying: the government's welfare committee had calculated that if immigration from Third World countries were blocked, 75  percent of the cuts needed to sustain the huge welfare system in coming decades would be unnecessary. In other words, the welfare system, as it existed, was being exploited by immigrants to the point of eventually  bankrupting the government. 'We are simply forced to adopt a new policy on immigration.'


                        'The calculations of the welfare committee are terrifying and show how  unsuccessful the integration of immigrants has been up to now,' he said.

                        A large thorn in the side of Denmark 's imams is the Minister of Immigration and Integration, Rikke Hvilshoj. She makes no bones about the  new policy toward immigration, 'The number of foreigners coming to the  country makes a difference,' Hvilshoj says, 'There is an inverse correlation between how many come here and how well we can receive the foreigners that  come.' And on Muslim immigrants needing to demonstrate a willingness to blend in, 'In my view, Denmark should be a country with room for different cultures and religions. Some values, however, are  more important than others. We refuse to question democracy, equal rights, and freedom of speech.'

                        Hvilshoj has paid a price for her show of backbone. Perhaps to test her resolve, the leading radical imam in Denmark, Ahmed Abdel Rahman Abu  Laban, demanded that the government pay blood money to the family of a  Muslim who was murdered in a suburb of Copenhagen, stating that the family's  thirst for revenge could be thwarted for money. When Hvilshoj dismissed his demand, he argued that in Muslim culture the payment of retribution money  was common, to which Hvilshoj replied that what is done in a Muslim country  is not necessarily what is done in Denmark.

                        The Muslim reply came soon after: her house was torched while she, her husband and children slept. All managed to escape unharmed, but she and her family were moved to a secret location and she and other ministers were assigned bodyguards for the first  time - in a country where such murderous violence was once so scarce.

                        Her government has slid to the right, and her borders have tightened. Many believe that what happens in the next decade will determine whether Denmark survives as a bastion of good living, humane thinking and  social responsibility, or whether it becomes a nation at civil war with  supporters of Sharia law.

                        And meanwhile, Canadians clamor for stricter immigration policies, and  demand an end to state welfare programs that allow many immigrants to live on the public dole. As we in Canada look at the enclaves of Muslims amongst  us, and see those who enter our shores too easily, dare live on our taxes, yet refuse to embrace our culture, respect our traditions, participate in  our legal system, obey our laws, speak our language, appreciate our history.  We would do well to look to   Denmark , and say a prayer for her future and for our own.
"Listen to the mustn'ts, child. Listen to the don'ts. Listen to the shouldn'ts, the impossibles, the won'ts. Listen to the never haves, then listen close to me . . . Anything can happen, child. Anything can be"

*Shel Silverstein*

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Re: Long, but a very good read
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2013, 07:22:00 PM »
  I read the whole thing.  I pass these truths along to other Obmazombies.  Some of them, I hope will be cured of this current social malady.  I just don't know what to call this affliction.    "The desire for enslavement"
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Re: Long, but a very good read
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2013, 08:04:31 PM »
it is a common problem in all of Europe.  the EU has made it bad with it's open borders policies and in countries like England, which has a pretty open policy for former colonists, it's getting really out of hand.  they have no desire to integrate, they suck up public resources, and they demand that everyone around them change to fit their demands.
to make it worse, many of these European countries and Canada, have passed these "hate speech" laws that make it next to impossible to speak up about the problems  without landing in court, or jail.

i have long held that we need to change our immigration policy.  there is no reason that we have a lottery.  there is no reason we have open slots available for those who are non-skilled labor.  we need to do more as Australia and New Zealand have done and have a strict policy that brings in only what we need...and not their 100 extended family for years to come.

contrary to the common belief, we are not a nation of immigrants.  we are a nation that people immigrated to, to become American.  there was a time people were anxious to put their past behind them and say that they had become American citizens....not -American welfare recipients. 
which is not to say that when you come here you should leave all tradition behind...unless, like my family, you have come from England.  In that case, please leave the cooking traditions behind!   :evil:
One could not learn history from architecture any more than one could learn it from books. Statues, inscriptions, memorial stones, the names of streets ? anything that might throw light upon the past had been systematically altered. (1.8.85)

George Orwell  "1984"