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« on: February 07, 2013, 09:36:55 AM »

I've heard about dog and other animals acting strange or going missing before an earthquake.
Has anyone observed or heard stories of earthquakes affecting honey bees?
Just curious.

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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2013, 10:00:31 AM »

I heard a bunch absconded just before Hurricane Sandy hit the New Jersey, New York area.
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2013, 10:16:13 AM »

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I heard a bunch absconded just before Hurricane Sandy hit the New Jersey, New York area.

don't know, but maybe some of the CA folks can say.  interesting thought because i have had lots of swarm calls when we have had bad t-storms.  i was going with the pressure change cause.  would love to know if they react to the earthquakes.
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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2013, 11:38:41 PM »

I found reference to a book written in 1996 "Ted Miller's Earthquake Prediction Handbook" claiming that:
"Bees have been seen evacuating their hive in a panic, minutes before an earthquake, and then not returning until fifteen minutes after the quake ended. Even creatures such as millipedes, leeches, squid, and ants have been reported to exhibit abnormal behavior prior to earthquakes."
http://users.lycaeum.org/~maverick/quake.htm

There is also an article on the Caltech website that mentions bees swarming before an earthquake:
"For many organisms, behavioral action taken prior to an earthquake could reduce mortality: fish and cetaceans leaving coastal zones, rodents
exiting from collapsible burrows or dwellings, bees swarming, parents delaying egg-laying, etc."
Earthquake Prediction by Animals: Evolution and Sensory Perception
http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~jkirschvink/pdfs/earthquakeprediction.pdf
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2013, 02:33:44 AM »



don't know, but maybe some of the CA folks can say.  interesting thought because i have had lots of swarm calls when we have had bad t-storms.  i was going with the pressure change cause.  would love to know if they react to the earthquakes.

When bees swarm, they have decided that happening 2 weeks ealier when the queen lays into queen cells.

I have wondered that what signal they get when several hives start to do same things.

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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2013, 07:02:18 AM »

earthquakes - HAARP ?

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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2013, 09:12:08 AM »

Thank you everyone for the replies.  Absolutely fascinating!!!!
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2013, 09:37:47 AM »

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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2013, 11:31:38 AM »

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When bees swarm, they have decided that happening 2 weeks ealier when the queen lays into queen cells.

sure, but i have wondered if timing was influenced by weather, specifically the pressure changes.  otherwise, it seems like a dumb time to swarm right when a t-storm is coming.  it might be wise time to get out of the way if a tornado were coming.  that's also preceded by pressure change.
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?

– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2013, 11:33:44 AM »

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earthquakes - HAARP ?

right, because there weren't any before that   grin
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?

– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2013, 11:56:54 AM »

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When bees swarm, they have decided that happening 2 weeks ealier when the queen lays into queen cells.

sure, but i have wondered if timing was influenced by weather, specifically the pressure changes. 

swarming pressure, yes---
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