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Re: drones in middle georgia.
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2013, 01:07:37 AM »
That would be for a medium, but it is an estimate.  Should be fairly close, though.

If you figure a quart per frame and the weight of a quart as being closer to 2.8 pounds then 2.8 x 8 = 22.4 pounds per 8-frame super.  I think some folks get a lot more than this by utilizing the full space of the supers by spreading the frames out and having them drawn deeply.  Some people will run one less frame that what the super is designed for so that they can spread the frames out and get some really heavily filled frames...possibly getting up to 30 pounds per 8-frame super (which means more than a quart per frame).

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Re: drones in middle georgia.
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2013, 06:27:20 AM »
OK, thanks.
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Re: drones in middle georgia.
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2013, 07:53:13 AM »
That would be for a medium, but it is an estimate.  Should be fairly close, though.

If you figure a quart per frame and the weight of a quart as being closer to 2.8 pounds then 2.8 x 8 = 22.4 pounds per 8-frame super.  I think some folks get a lot more than this by utilizing the full space of the supers by spreading the frames out and having them drawn deeply.  Some people will run one less frame that what the super is designed for so that they can spread the frames out and get some really heavily filled frames...possibly getting up to 30 pounds per 8-frame super (which means more than a quart per frame).

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OK...
Maybe I'm missing something, but something isn't adding up here!

A quart of honey weighing 2.8 pounds?????

It's my understanding that a pint of honey is one pound, 16 U.S. fluid ounces. Hence the popular American saying, "A pint's a pound, the world round".  So that would put a Quart of honey weighing 2 pounds, not 2.8...I think! :)

Although I'll be the first to admit, I find the whole thing confusing as hell!  :-D

A little clarity!
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Re: drones in middle georgia.
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2013, 09:44:39 AM »
A pint of honey weighs closer to 20 oz....honey is heavier than water.

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Re: drones in middle georgia.
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2013, 09:59:28 AM »
A pint of honey weighs closer to 20 oz....honey is heavier than water.

Scott

^^^^^substantially heavier than water.  the accepted average weight for a gallon of honey is around 12 pounds and i think a full medium 10 frame super should produce around 30 to 40 pounds of honey if you extract efficiently, maybe even a little more depending on the variety of honey.  multiply that by .8 and you should have a safe estimate for an 8 frame super.  

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Re: drones in middle georgia.
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2013, 11:47:25 AM »
A pint of honey weighs closer to 20 oz....honey is heavier than water.

Scott

Boy....I was confused! :oops:

This makes much more sense!  Somewhere I had read and been convinced that a pint of honey weighed a pound.  I knew that didn't make sense, but it was on the internet so I figured it had to be true. LOL!
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Re: drones in middle georgia.
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2013, 12:29:02 PM »
Average only: Should this not work if you do the math? There are no absolutes in bee keeping. [That's my disclaimer] :)
5 gal. bucket of honey weighs 60 pounds.
1 US Gallon= 12#
1/2 US gal.= 6#
There are 4 qts. per US gal=3# per qt.
8 pints per US gal. = 1 1/2 # per pt.

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Re: drones in middle georgia.
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2013, 12:32:19 PM »
The "pint's a pound..." applies to sugar and water and the saying is good for making up sugar syrup.  Other substances may be different or may have the same specific gravities and densities, but water and sugar...it works. ;)

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Re: drones in middle georgia.
« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2013, 12:36:39 PM »
Average only: Should this not work if you do the math? There are no absolutes in bee keeping. [That's my disclaimer] :)
5 gal. bucket of honey weighs 60 pounds.
1 US Gallon= 12#
1/2 US gal.= 6#
There are 4 qts. per US gal=3# per qt.
8 pints per US gal. = 1 1/2 # per pt.
When I was making mead I found that a closer weight for a quart was 2.8 pounds.  I used a digital kitchen scale to weigh it and the scale appears to be accurate when measured with commercially weighed items.  I would think that different honey will have a bit of a difference in weight...a 7% difference seems substantial (3# vs 2.8#).  Close enough for government work, though.  :-D

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Re: drones in middle georgia.
« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2013, 01:05:00 PM »
Average only: Should this not work if you do the math? There are no absolutes in bee keeping. [That's my disclaimer] :)
5 gal. bucket of honey weighs 60 pounds.
1 US Gallon= 12#
1/2 US gal.= 6#
There are 4 qts. per US gal=3# per qt.
8 pints per US gal. = 1 1/2 # per pt.
When I was making mead I found that a closer weight for a quart was 2.8 pounds.  I used a digital kitchen scale to weigh it and the scale appears to be accurate when measured with commercially weighed items.  I would think that different honey will have a bit of a difference in weight...a 7% difference seems substantial (3# vs 2.8#).  Close enough for government work, though.  :-D

Ed

yeah, i'd have to say that a couple of ounces one way or the other is close enough.  i'm not even really sure why it matters.
i would think the more important record would be the total pounds produced by a colony in a year not how many frames it took to get there.  unless you are trying to make a major expansion in a short time and don't want to come up short on equipment.
if  the bees are flying and they are filling them keep adding them.  when the bees stop flying stop adding them.
don't forget to leave enough for the bees to make it to the next season.

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Re: drones in middle georgia.
« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2013, 01:15:25 PM »
The thing that always baffles me is that if I need to fill a couple of pint mason jars from a quart mason jar I come up short.

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Re: drones in middle georgia.
« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2013, 01:35:30 PM »
A pint of honey weights one pound and eight ounces.
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Re: drones in middle georgia.
« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2013, 01:47:36 PM »
The thing that always baffles me is that if I need to fill a couple of pint mason jars from a quart mason jar I come up short.

Scott
You nailed it Scott!!!!  I'd noticed that but just thought I was a bit looney or something!  I'm glad to hear somebody else experience this...I guess the honey gremlins take their share or something.  :)

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Re: drones in middle georgia.
« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2013, 01:55:45 PM »
A pint of honey weights one pound and eight ounces.
I feel like we're entering the Twilight Zone or something.  :-D  I've measured a quart of honey in my mead making adventures and it comes up 2.8 pounds per quart.  But, if I try to divide that quart into two pint jars I end up short as Scott mentioned.  If two pints combined weigh 3 pounds then where are the missing two ounces (by weight) of honey in the quart jar?  Hmm, maybe I need to try pouring two pints into a quart jar....  I'm beginning to hear some strange music drifting in with the breeze.....
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Re: drones in middle georgia.
« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2013, 02:05:26 PM »
seems like you guys would get more answers if you started a thread about this.  the headline is about drones and the topic is now the weight of honey.  most people with good answers probably aren't looking at this.

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Re: drones in middle georgia.
« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2013, 02:35:23 PM »
You're right we've hijacked the thread.

My apologies to the OP.  So...beekeepers are prone to AADD?  :-D

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Re: drones in middle georgia.
« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2013, 03:40:34 PM »
On my labels I put 1.44# for a pint and 2.88# for a quart.  You can be less but not over the actual weight.
Back to the thread now.
10 Farmer, I have seen some drones also.  The bees are bring in a little yellow pollen.  I have some Laruel Cherry trees across the road from my house.  They are covered in blooms, but haven't opened yet.  Should in a few days.  The white clover is blooming good, haven't seen the girls on it though.  Good luck to yall.


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Re: drones in middle georgia.
« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2013, 03:46:47 PM »
Saw a few drones this morning, got stung on the ear for my effort. Gonna add supers in the morning, a couple of my hives are heavy. Lots of bees. Just about time to split and move to greener pastures.
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Re: drones in middle georgia.
« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2013, 11:58:07 PM »
I have seen Drones in My hives. They only reduced the no.s never really left. the winter has been mild enough for the most part. no steady cold weather to kick out all the males this year. The hives have been bringing in dandiloin pollen for the past 2 weeks. still going to wait for about two weeks till I add anything on top. Don't want to add space and we get a cold snap and they freeze. so I'll let them stay a little tight for warmth till the last week of feb. you know here in Ga. we can get a artic snap in early march.


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