interesting view of the republican party, but not mine. you'd be hard pressed to find anyone more conservative than i. in fact, i think much of the republican party has become to liberal and this is the reason for losing.
The fact that the party has become more liberal, proves my point. They did this because they needed too. yes you can claim victories in past elections, not by perhaps better positions, but probably by hatred for Obama, and fear moving forward about "socialism".
I do not care whether it is the republicans or tea party, if they continue the positions of throwing 40 million back across the border, denigrating women, and fighting for millionaires, they will continue to lose moving forward. It is too easy for the dems to have a discussion on abortion, immigration, and other points, and make the republicans look bad.
And for all the issues, I think a vast number in the middle do not place their vote on issues that the republicans hang their hats. I do think that many want less debt, and a better future. but the republicans go to a convention and get bogged down on "abortion" language. And I think they lose women for it.
Will the republicans really lower debt? Did they do this the last time they were power? Or are some more concerned with legislating morals? More concerned with two gays they never met, or forcing a women who was raped to carry to term?
Sure for many it is about choosing between two evils. And you can get some to swing their vote if the other side look bad enough. That had happened in the past. It really is not about a winning position from the right, it is hoping for a losing position from the left. Many hope Obama fails, as this is the path of getting elected. Not really that anyone actually think that the right will do any better, just not as bad.
Do you really think the vast majority of folks care about 17 trillion in debt? I'm not talking about you and me, and perhaps other educated folks. I'm talking about the vast majority of voters that are concerned with everyday issues. They do not.
But go ahead.....think that the right will get elected again talking about full term pregnancy for rape victims, and caring about two dudes getting married that you have never met, or claiming that 40 million should be kicked back across the border. I do not think those are winning positions. You can cling to these key talking points, but I think the corner has been turned, and it will be very hard for it to reverse without a major fail from the left.
So the republicans are too liberal. Maybe some elected are. Perhaps they did that in a changing world. And having the right place their bets on talking about women's reproductive rights, gay issues, and morals, will not improve things. They will if "conservative" is about fiscal responsibility and others matters, and even that will be hard to do as I already pointed out when so many are living off the system.
If you are talking about "moral" conservatism, that is not going to win based on abortion, gay, and other issues. That will continue to paint candidates in a box and they will lose moving forward.
Sorry, that is how I see it. I think the republicans, and conservatives, need to evaluate their positions and understand that even though they may have these views, many others do not. And digging in and being more to the right, is a losing position. Going right worked for Reagan. But I do not see that happening anytime soon, without complete failure from the left which would provide the opening the republicans would need.
The rep. party can talk about debt all they want. But many do not want to take a chance on the party when so much other "morality" issues are included.
Give me candidates that want true conservatism from a political stance, about debt, military, and personal freedom. And leave all the other morals and social crap at the door. But because they can not do that, the right will lose moving forward.
The right could not even get elected with 8% unemployment, gas around 4 dollars, a out of control debt, and the economy in chaos. And the republicans get caught up talking about immigration, gays, and abortion restrictions for rape victims.
Yeah.....that will work!.....NOT!
But go ahead and select a candidate that fits your concerns of gays in the military. :roll: