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« on: January 03, 2013, 02:04:42 PM »

Our socialist president never fails to disappoint us. Today he signed the bill using an auto-pen so he didn't actually signed it himself, his version I guess of a protest. Does anyone know was this ever been even done before?

Usually, anything monumental is done with about 20 pens for each and every letter Of the president's name is signed independently then given to somebody of  "Importance" a tradition that I even noticed as a child, I always thought it silly, and even wondered about its Legality, but obviously it's valid. But sorry folks, no souvenir pens this time.

Of course then again, he did play a few rounds of golf today, so he did do something Beneficial to the State of the Union – LOL.

Seriously though, I am curious about the auto pen thing. Literally how can this man after years of fighting for these issues go that route instead of at least putting his real signature on the paper.

It's scary to see that our borders on the Atlantic and the Pacific oceans are "protected by blue states" and all the red states are in the center, it reminds me of the Revolutionary war with the Drummers and flute players out front and the real soldiers Behind.

It's sad to say and even sadder to live the next four years thinking that the mentality of our leader in the White House gets down to silly games and pointing fingers at the conservatives every chance he gets, meanwhile telling us that they are the ones who are holding things up.

It's really sad to say that his four years hasn't even started yet, Lord knows what this is going to be like. God help us all.
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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2013, 06:22:36 PM »

You are preaching to the choir John. On top of that, yes he won, but do you have to rub our noses in it and brag about it. Our President is a jerk!

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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2013, 06:49:11 PM »

Obama has used the auto pen before. He didn't even have to come back to sign but he want to put on a show.
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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2013, 07:53:32 PM »

he had to take a couple of victory laps.  after all, he did the most important thing.  he got taxes raised on the "rich" which was his goal.  it never was about revenue, or anything other than punishment of the people he hates. 

he is a small little man surrounded by small people.  as he said, he's not done yet.  those nasty rich still have to pay their fair share. 

the one thing that we know from watching other countries do this kind of stuff, is that the middle class is always hurt.  sometimes, with communism, for example, this is intentional.  a middle class can't exist  in a society that is redistributing wealth and trying to achieve economic fairness.  you have a protected ruling class that administers the fairness programs, and everyone else.

  in the social welfare states of europe, the middle class is destroyed because opportunity is lost and because, being the biggest class of citizens, they end up with the highest tax burden.  there are not enough rich, and the rich are either leaving or being destroyed.  the next big pot of money to support the ever expanding welfare class is the middle class.  to pacify the middle class, you promise them more free stuff, then you take more money, then you promise more free stuff.............

either way, the economy tanks or at best stagnates, and the middle class gets bent over.  the welfare class still gets it's stuff so they don't riot....you know, like they do in europe when someone mentions that they might need to cut back just a bit......
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2013, 11:00:58 AM »

>>he had to take a couple of victory laps.  after all, he did the most important thing.  he got taxes raised on the "rich" which was his goal.  it never was about revenue, or anything other than punishment of the people he hates. 
he is a small little man surrounded by small people.  as he said, he's not done yet.  those nasty rich still have to pay their fair share. 

Yea and for sure he has the Republicans by the ba--s on a down hill pull. He has gotten his way on every important thing yet. And this next debt ceiling thing will prolly go the same way.
Taxes went up on all working middleclass people already Jan. I. And as you say that is just the start.
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2013, 11:09:23 AM »

to be honest, there's not much the republicans can do.  with the smallish majority in the house and the dems holding all else, the best they can do in the long run is make noise so that at least people might know what's happening.  since this prez just does things by exec order if he doesn't get his way, or the senate just refuses to vote on things, we are pretty powerless.

i forget how many bills the house has sent to the senate, including budget bills, and old Harry just sits on them.  not one has been voted on.
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2013, 03:07:44 PM »

You are preaching to the choir ...but do you have to rub our noses in... Our President is a jerk!

Exactly my view asprince.  However until the Tea Party folks either get out of the way, or wake up and learn how conduct a winning political campaign, there is little that can be done to get the country back on track.  People like FORMER South Carolina Tea Party Senator Jim DeMint is pushing candidates who couldn't get lucky in a house of ill-repute if they had their PJs stuffed with C-Notes. 

Political electoral success is built one issue and one vote at a time.  You must cultivate a voting constituency to pressure politicians or to impact policy.     
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2013, 03:53:14 PM »

not my view of TEA party candidates.  we complain that we have no new blood, no strong people, no new ideas.  then we get a few in there that shake things up....even if they don't always win, and we panic that they are going to make us look bad.  i want that old guard out.  the McCains and Co. need to go.  new blood that will stand up even after getting knocked down, and at least try to make a difference. 

the tea party is really only about 2 things.  spending and the constitution.  they are not, as a group, into the moral issues that put some republicans off.  they are not....and we should remember this....a party.  they are a part of a party, and lately, the only part that seems to have any nuts, or sense.
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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

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