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Author Topic: how did William Spengler ever get out of jail  (Read 412 times)
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« on: December 27, 2012, 03:26:58 PM »

Are you kidding me!!!!   this guy murders his grandmother WITH A HAMMER and plea bargins for a manslaughter charge, goes to prison for 17 years and they then let it out!   For god sake he killed his grandma with a hammer.  The DA that allowed him to the reduced manslaughter charge should have some splaining to do.  This should have never happened and what does the new media have to say about it  "It was a bushmaster assault weapon with a flash suppressor" 
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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2012, 04:21:18 PM »

i know.  caught that.  the guns are so much easier to deal with than the real problems we face.  as gun owners, we need to figure out where to draw the line.  i think i have gone as far as i'm going to go with the government.  so far, i have done what they asked and it has not been enough.  it will never be enough.  i am to the "now or never" point.
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?

– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2012, 07:24:50 PM »

>>This should have never happened and what does the news media have to say about it  "It was a bushmaster assault weapon with a flash suppressor" 

 And what they fail to mention was that there was a law in effect that was supposed to keep this ex con from having a gun of any kind. angry And the law didn't work just like all the other laws that are going to be passed will not work for criminals. shocked But the new laws will make the libs feel good. embarassed
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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2012, 08:38:55 PM »

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But the new laws will make the libs feel good.

legislators legislate.  that's why i have always been in favor of limiting their time in washington and hopefully limiting the damage they do from year to year.
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?

– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2012, 04:27:44 PM »

i know.  caught that.  the guns are so much easier to deal with than the real problems we face.  as gun owners, we need to figure out where to draw the line.  i think i have gone as far as i'm going to go with the government.  so far, i have done what they asked and it has not been enough.  it will never be enough.  i am to the "now or never" point.
Care to explain?
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« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2012, 07:35:23 PM »

nope evil  i'm pretty sure it's self explanatory.   angel
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?

– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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