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« on: November 25, 2012, 03:38:21 PM »

i harvested Tetradium daniellii seeds.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetradium
If you are interested in starting some, i can send a few if you provide me your address. Until i run out of seeds...
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jcaime2(at)aol(dot)com
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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2012, 04:48:23 PM »

just for others to know, you sent me some last year. I have 4 trees going strong, gave away 3 or 4 saplings, and gave seeds to a few club members. The seeds were great, and plentiful in the pack you sent.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2012, 07:06:21 PM »

Do you think these would grow in Idaho?  I'm always looking for more trees.  Especially if they would feed the girls.
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2012, 07:40:48 PM »

I also received a packet of seeds. Thanks. I took the seeds out, removed the chaf and found there were 90 seeds. I made up 30-3 gallon pots and planted 3 seeds in each one and put them around my wife's garden. That way they would get regular watering. I have not had even one tree grow. I left the pots there in the hope  that they might start growing. It would be great to have a summer source of nectar at the farm. Right now we only have nectar in the spring.
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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2012, 08:15:43 PM »

They need to be scarified. Place them in the refrig in a wet paper towel in a ziplock bag for 30 days, then plant them 1/4 inch deep. Give them plenty of water and they will sprout and grow.

PS. Never put all your eggs in one basket. I tried different ways and that is the one that worked.
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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2012, 09:44:26 PM »

They need to be scarified........
I tried different ways and that is the one that worked.
Ditto here,

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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2012, 02:33:03 PM »

Thanks JC, I recieved the seeds yesterday.  Will plant in the spring.




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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2012, 08:18:13 PM »

Oh yeah, something else I can try to grow! Email sent.  Looks like a pretty big tree. I have been populating a 250’ strip along the highway since ’96.  Mostly evergreens (before bees). I put in doug fir in the first row, western red cedar in row 2 and highbred willow in row 3.  Figured the willow would grow the fastest, followed by the doug’s followed by the cedar.  The cedar would not loose the lower limbs like the doug and the willow would hit the chainsaw when they got too large.  10 year plan worked out pretty well (most of the willows gone) and  the Dougs could go away for something with flowers. 
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2012, 08:52:18 PM »

I got mine. Thanks JC.
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2012, 04:04:16 PM »

Thanks JC!  Very kind of you to send the seeds!  Can't wait to get them in the ground.
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2012, 07:58:13 PM »

I sent you a E-mail today. I have been wanting to grow them for awhile now but have not been able to find a seed supplier that has any. I hve a friend that wanted to try them also for his bees.

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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2012, 09:11:20 PM »

I received my seeds too!  I am sharing them with my neighbors so we will have plenty of bee trees around the area.  Hopefully it will keep my "girls" happy!!

Thanks for sending them!
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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2012, 10:22:49 PM »

Got mine in today's mail. It was nice to get an early x-mas gift. Hardy in zones 4-8, so will give a try next season. Wish I had some seeds to send you back.
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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2012, 10:42:41 PM »

 shocked Wow! never even knew there was a seed swap sticky in the gardening section. Guess I should snoop around more often.
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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2012, 10:09:23 PM »

Thanks JC. Received them yesterday. I have read up on several different ways to get them started and will try most of them. I will transplant all that grow across our farm.

Again thanks!!!

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« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2012, 01:23:05 PM »

I also didn't know there was a seed swap! It would be great to get a few of these growing on my property. I normally have seeds to trade but I just moved and this will be a rebuilding year for me. Sent and e-mail. Hope there are some left.
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« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2012, 06:22:54 PM »

Got my seeds.  I am going to put some outside for the winter in some shallow containers and put some in the refrigerator. Any other suggestions? 
I was out looking for a place to put them and walked through my western red cedar hedge and right into a hawthorn.  Nice flowers, pretty tree, pretty berries on it now. But it drew first blood and I am going to kill it.

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« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2012, 08:49:42 PM »

Hey JC
I got the seeds today. wow that was alot of seeds. I am going to plant some in the garden area to see if they will come up, some in the refige for about a month, some in the freezer for about two weeks, and see which way works best. then let the guys know around here which way works best for the seeds I'm going to split with them.

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« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2012, 08:00:34 AM »

ninz dont kill hawthorn, just graft it to something that doesnt stick--pear 
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« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2012, 02:32:00 PM »

Received my seeds,
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« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2012, 08:56:32 PM »

Hawthorns are a beautiful fall color tree (start with yellows and slowly go to red).  But.. they have taken over, naturalizing all through the hedge.
Bud, are you saying that I can graft pear to them? Are you a bud grafter (thus the name)?  I put about 8 bud grafts on my espaliers this fall and am waiting to see the results.  I also did standard grafts to several other trees and only got one of 5 to take. 

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« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2012, 08:30:33 PM »

Thanks Jean-Claude.  I got my seeds in the mail yesterday.  That was a very kind gesture, and it is very much appreciated.

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« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2012, 11:53:22 AM »

All distributed. i ran out. Now it is your turn to grow and distribute them seeds in 5-6 years.
i read that the saplings need 2 years protected growth - in pot? - before planting them in ground. That was only one source. Someone at the Arnold Arboretum will start some and let me know which way is best since i am still trying to figure it out.
Stratification (cold treatment) is necessary, all agree on that. But my trial on Fall outdoor pots have failed. Fridge is a better bet.
Another thing i noticed is that once the sapling is growing, it does not like being waterlogged. It may like constant water for sprouting but like it on a slightly drier side later on. Not bone dry either.
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« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2012, 12:06:14 PM »

That is what I have found, except being in zone 7, they do well in the ground the second year. Also, the ones I have within 50 feet of a pond or creek grow at twice the speed of the ones high on the hill.
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« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2012, 06:58:31 PM »

I have no idea how many you sent but I put about 60 in a tray out in the rain (and a little snow today) the bulk (yes more than the 60) I put in the refrigerator.  Time will tell, thanks for the opportunity!

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« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2012, 07:17:51 AM »

seeds came   thanks
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« Reply #26 on: December 23, 2012, 10:57:53 PM »

Pulled a heavy coat out of the closet that I have not used since last winter and found the envelope of seeds and there area few left. I put them in the fridge. I will try planting them in a month.
Thanks again.
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« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2012, 10:18:14 AM »

mintz  nope on the bud   i just look around my place and anything growing wild like persimon, pears pecan oaks, just whack them off and stick a cultivar on and tape them up.
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« Reply #28 on: December 25, 2012, 11:03:31 AM »

question about seed: have had seeds in freezer for about 6 months. have tried to plant seeds in the past with no luck. so I've put seeds in wet napkin into freezer bag into refreg. and will take out on Feb. 1st.and try again. now to the question: after taking seeds out of freezer how soon can I try to plant a few in pots and keep in house until Spring? Instructions and info are appreciated. Pembroke
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« Reply #29 on: December 25, 2012, 01:51:25 PM »

Does anyone know if these trees can take the kind of hot summers Texas has to offer?   We want to plant more flowering trees (already have planted dessert willows and vitex, and native mesquites are everywhere) and need to know if the Bee bee tree will make it here before purchasing.  Thanks! 
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« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2013, 09:34:37 PM »

does any one know if pecans are good for bees for nectar or pollen? huh and also if anyone knows where these trees are sold or if anyone has seeds just let me know.  thanks so much.
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« Reply #31 on: January 01, 2013, 10:04:59 PM »

does any one know if pecans are good for bees for nectar or pollen? huh and also if anyone knows where these trees are sold or if anyone has seeds just let me know.  thanks so much.
They are sold at Ace Hardware here in the spring. Not sure if bees are the main pollinator.
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« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2013, 12:02:25 AM »

Scarification is probly necessary. Use of a file to nick the seed coat or use of acid on seeds are both easy.  Germinate in wet paper towel in spring.  If anyone is wondering about trees for Texas then look at soapberry trees.  Native and the bees cant stay off them! I'll gather seed next year to give out.
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« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2013, 08:41:24 PM »

Scarification is probly necessary. Use of a file to nick the seed coat or use of acid on seeds are both easy.  Germinate in wet paper towel in spring.  If anyone is wondering about trees for Texas then look at soapberry trees.  Native and the bees cant stay off them! I'll gather seed next year to give out.

I love to try some. Have never heard of soapberry? I do have lots of kudzu vines  Wink but can't give them away. we now have a kudzu bug that loves to eat it. great but man they are worse than ladybugs. plus if you hit them they smell worse that stinkbugs. (can't win for losing)

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« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2013, 08:38:00 AM »

Is the concensus the process is 30days in the fridge then soak seed for 24hrs then plant 1/4-1/2" deep in protected pot(s)? I had planted 75 seeds in 20oz cups w/BXProMix w/saran wrap over the cup and placed under florescent lights 7x24 for 30days and that did not work out. Thanks
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« Reply #35 on: February 16, 2013, 01:09:37 AM »

ScooterTrash - don't give up.  I did the same as you, except in a flat all together.  Forgot about them after giving up, they REALLY dried out, I started watering them again when I remembered them a couple of months later, and - BOOM - baby trees everywhere.  Let yours dry out and try again in a month or so - what have you got to lose?

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« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2013, 11:09:36 PM »

Did anyone else get your seeds planted? Also curious about your scarification methods?
Did anyone try Byrons World Famous Tea potion from Robo's site?
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« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2013, 08:39:26 PM »

I just put mine out in a flat in the garden.  A row came up but something took them down.  I put them under the eves and have about a dozen up about a ½”.  In a bit I will plant the ones in the refrigerator and see which do better.
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« Reply #38 on: April 28, 2013, 09:31:00 PM »

I put mine in warm water in a cup and left them there for 24 hours.  Then I mixed the soaked seeds in some planting mix, put it in a small zip bag and stuck it in my refrigerator for 100 days.  Just pulled them out a few days ago.  I dampened the seeds a bit (still in the potting mix) and put them on a tray--covered by plastic.  Everything went under my grow lights (actually shop lights) in the basement.  If they sprout, I am going to stick the sprouts in small individual pots and move them outside once it warms up.

I also did the same thing with some Japanese Maple seeds.  So hopefully everything will work out and I will have a ton of little trees soon!
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