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« on: November 16, 2012, 10:29:24 AM »

I have been reading about different stuff that can be put in the traps. I currently use vegetable oil.  I would rather use something dry like DE, Boric Acid or Activated Lime
I was afraid that the dusted beetle might crawl back into the hive and harm the bees. Once in oil nothing comes out. Anyone out there use these dry materials?
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2012, 09:26:43 PM »

I have not heard of a dry mix in a trap in the hive (beside checkmite).   What type/ brand trap are you running in your hives?
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2012, 09:04:30 AM »

I have been reading about different stuff that can be put in the traps. I currently use vegetable oil.  I would rather use something dry like DE, Boric Acid or Activated Lime
I was afraid that the dusted beetle might crawl back into the hive and harm the bees. Once in oil nothing comes out. Anyone out there use these dry materials?

 Are you using Screened Bottom Boards (SBB) Huh
 with a Beetle Trap (Plastic tray) AKA Freeman beetle trap Huh
 
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2012, 09:42:32 AM »

Vegetable oil becomes toxic in time , thats why they never oil cutting blocks with it, use mineral oil good for laxitives also  HAHA. with the beetle blaster thats all I use--But bee careful not to over fill , gets on  Queenie it wil take her out.. JPP
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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2012, 10:15:39 AM »

Previous Podcasts
09/10/09  2:43:30  Small Hive Beetles Freeman Beetle Trap Jerry Freeman

This is a Podcasts you can listen to at

http://robo.bushkillfarms.com/beekeeping/beekeeping-podcasts/



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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2012, 09:22:01 PM »

I am using the "Green Bee" type of trap. It uses #6 mesh screen with an aluminum tray underneath.  The tray removes from the rear of the hive. The guy offers the plans for free. The design made sense to me. I bought 6 from him and they really knocked down the small hive beetle.  I just wanted to try an alternative killing agent. Do a search for "Green Bee" they work well. I have to change the oil biweekly.
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2012, 04:51:48 AM »

I am using the "Green Bee" type of trap. It uses #6 mesh screen with an aluminum tray underneath.  The tray removes from the rear of the hive. The guy offers the plans for free. The design made sense to me. I bought 6 from him and they really knocked down the small hive beetle.  I just wanted to try an alternative killing agent. Do a search for "Green Bee" they work well. I have to change the oil biweekly.


  I did a search for "Green Bee" only 56 Pg. come up



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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2012, 09:30:45 AM »

Sorry jim 134, the site is http://www.greenbeehives.com, look for the Small Hive Beetle trap. You can buy it or he shows pictures and gives dimensions.
http://www.greenbeehives.com/abgrbe.html

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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2012, 11:41:18 AM »

The link works  applause

 Cooking oil becomes toxic after few days in the open,  you can use mineral oil

  

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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2012, 05:13:43 PM »

The link works  applause

 Cooking oil becomes toxic after few days in the open,  you can use mineral oil

 

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I really wanted some sort of dry substitute. The oil is really effective but a pain to dispose of. I wouldn't trade these traps for any thing. Building my own version this winter. SHB really active here. I live 30 miles from the place it all started, Charleston SC.
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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2012, 02:18:39 AM »

I don't have any SHB here yet, thank the good Lord.

What about water with a few drops of dish washing soap like Dawn?  Breaks the surface tension of the water so even the small light weight bugs fall through and drown.  I use is to kill Japanese beetles.  They drop like lead sinkers.  Well, not that fast, but they drop.  Smiley  Like I said, I've never had to deal with the little devils, so don't know if it would work on SHB or not.
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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2012, 05:09:06 PM »

I don't have any SHB here yet, thank the good Lord.

What about water with a few drops of dish washing soap like Dawn?  Breaks the surface tension of the water so even the small light weight bugs fall through and drown.  Smiley  Like I said, I've neverdeal with the little devils, so don't know if it would work on SHB or not.

The soapy water works but it evaporates so fast. In the summer I can't keep up with it. I work 4 on 4 off twelve hour shifts. In 4 days the water is gone. That's why I was looking for something dry.
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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2012, 08:10:44 PM »

Ya, water is not a good option in the dry summer heat. 
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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2012, 11:51:06 PM »

What?  You got DRY heat down there in Georgia these days  grin

Good point about the water evaporating!  Something I don't worry too much about up here...normally.

Is there any kind of electric grid zapper thing to kill the SHBs?  You know, like the blue light bug zappers?  Fry those beetles  grin
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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2012, 04:05:49 AM »

What?  You got DRY heat down there in Georgia...

Is there any kind of electric grid zapper thing to kill the SHBs?  You know, like the blue light bug zappers?  Fry those beetles  grin
Summer heat here in SC is not dry it's just that water is wetter than the air. Smiley

I like the bug zapper idea. I'm thinking a old neon transformer, 30kV, and two separate screens with the needed gap to prevent continuous discharge. Anything gets between them and ZAP!! Sound crazy? A little R&D, it just might work. Sure would be fun to watch.
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« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2012, 09:17:30 PM »

On "Bee Hive Journal" they suggest to use pink RV antifreeze in traps, it's non toxic, less messy and cheaper. Haven't tried it myself but I plan on trying it.
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« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2012, 03:18:19 AM »

check mite+, perizin or anything whit cumaphos kill shb.
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