TBeek, I don't think I am trying to make enemies when I don't believe a man when he says he would continue down a path knowing that it would take him into bankruptcy. If he would, then I really think he needs help beyond anything he is going to find on an internet forum.
I was using the example of my parents. They cut my brother's wages in half, and zeroed out their own. Even with that, they need to suspend wage increases (maybe even cut wages a bit?), expect their employees to forego normally hefty year-end bonuses, and cut some benefits. It wasn't pretty, but their employees seem to know they're decent employers, and they could see other construction companies going completely under, so they were amazingly willing for the changes.
My point is that my parents weren't making record profits while doing all the austerity measures for their employees, and that makes ALL the difference.
iddee--I spent the whole weekend talking politics with my aforementioned brother. He and his wife are conservative, my sis, her husband and I are liberal, and we had some excellent conversations. It helped me see that we are all far more similar than we would have thought. They don't like welfare fraud. Neither do I. They see a need for a safety net in true need situations. So do I. They want responsible govt spending. As do I. I want a strong military, but I worry about prisoners from 9-11 days still not charged, still not processed, still not home. So does my brother. I don't feel the need to stock up on guns, but I can see why he may. We may disagree on exactly which programs we want to see funded or eliminated, but the basics we agree on.
This nonstop divisiveness worries me, because nothing gets done in an environment where nobody can even hear the other person talking. I want my politicians, as imperfect as they are, to get to work and get something done. I don't want their conversations at the Capitol to resemble ours here online. If I refuse to acknowledge another's points of view, will they listen to mine? Can we possibly move the country forward if we're too busy shouting to listen?