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« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2012, 11:25:38 AM » |
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Bush Jr leaves office: DOW = 8000 Today: DOW = 12846 Up 60%. General Motors up 19% for the year. While Wall Street careens downhill....
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kathyp
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« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2012, 12:39:29 PM » |
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Canceled, I believe. hope not. it's about the only new show i picked up this year. it's different and i like it.....which my husband says is the kiss of death  |
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?
– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2012, 04:03:03 PM » |
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Quote:
"Bush Jr leaves office: DOW = 8000
Today: DOW = 12846
Up 60%.
General Motors up 19% for the year."
And gas was at 1.89 in Jan., 2008
Now it is 3.50.
The dow didn't even stay up with inflation, much less gain.
PS. THIS PLANET.
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« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2012, 06:51:01 PM » |
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And GM was a private company with Bondholders. Now the Government and the Union own it and The guvmint busily buys Volts or none would leave the door! Drink that Koolaid!
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« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2012, 06:56:22 PM » |
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Inflationary pressure of quantitave easing? That is printing of unsecured dollars?
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« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2012, 06:57:45 PM » |
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This past year was the first ever federal spending exceeded the GDP of our nation.A governmet spending in excess of GDP will doom the nation.
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« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2012, 06:59:54 PM » |
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Inflationary pressure of quantitave easing? That is printing of unsecured dollars?
Blue has had that pointed out to him before, but can't seem to understand it.  |
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« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2012, 07:00:48 PM » |
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We need 53 dollars a share and all government held stock to be sold to break even for the taxpayers. Thats not counting the interest on the money that was borrowed for the bailout. And every volt sold loses money for GM.
Dump all that stock on the market and it races down to the bottom.
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« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2012, 07:11:09 PM » |
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The guvmint busily buys Volts or none would leave the door! now that you mention it  not only did we lose money on the bailout and the government (taxpayer) purchase of stock, but we continue to throw tax money down the dumper buying those crappy little cars. |
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?
– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2012, 07:42:35 PM » |
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« Reply #30 on: November 09, 2012, 07:57:06 PM » |
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You guys are so funny. From the abc news story: "The Stennis group arrived in the Fifth Fleet’s area of operations on Oct. 17 to replace the USS Enterprise, which was on the final deployment of its 50 years of service. " So Admiral Gaouette’s removal was due to his attempting to support Ham's strike force on September 11? But his fleet was not on station in the Middle East until more than a month later. At the time of the attack in Benghazi, the Stennis was en route from Bremerton, Washington. |
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« Reply #31 on: November 09, 2012, 08:24:38 PM » |
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you are not to familiar with the reporting of ships movements, are you?
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?
– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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