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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2012, 07:01:02 PM »

I don't know where you get your info, but my son is a lifetime member and is also the only family member who is an NRA member.

As for a fully auto firearm, it has always been my understanding that a federal license was required to own one. Please show me otherwise.
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« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2012, 10:30:11 PM »

... Treaty’s are International law... If the treaty we are talking about here was agreed on and Ratified by 2/3rds of the Senate it would restrict international trade of firearms...The only way it would impact you or I is that Russian 223 ammo might be harder to get... The US and Russia both rejected the UN's Arms Treaty back in July.. so it is a mute point anyway... 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_Trade_Treaty

Above is information from Wikipedia concerning the UN “Small Arms Treaty.  Read it and determine for yourself whether you agree with bluebee’s assessment that the UN Small Arms Treaty is not a danger to the Second Amendment.  I feel it is on a par to the proposed UN treaty to outlaw speech critical of Mohammedism.  While giving Mohammedism a free hand to an attack Christianity, Judaism and Atheism.   Of course death is proscribed for gays and adultery as well as Atheist.  This proposed second UN treaty is a direct attack on religious freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, a free press as well as the pursuit of happiness and personhood.   By the way, under the proposed UN pro-Mohammedan treaty, Muslims can ban abortion since it can be viewed as a human attempt to frustrate the will of Allah.     

Below find a part of The United Nations Small Arms Treaty:
I have taken the liberty (This liberty may be my last acts of liberty) to highlight some of the language in this treaty.  While I can not find anywhere in the United Nations Small Arms Treaty that specifically mandates the confiscation of your pistol, revolver, shotgun, or rifle; I also can not find anything that would prevent the UN from confiscating your firearms or that would entitle you to buy ammo.  But do remember that the United Nations and various trade agreements endorsed by the UN, do require that the United States stands by while your job is exported to a third world dictatorship under the guise of fair trade.

The UN Small Arms Treaty (in part)
"Loopholes would be minimized. It would include:
all weapons —including all military, security and police arms, related equipment and ammunition, components, expertise, and production equipment;
all types of transfer—including import, export, re-export, temporary transfer and transshipment, in the state sanctioned and commercial trade, plus transfers of technology, loans, gifts and aid; and all transactions—including those by dealers and brokers, and those providing technical assistance, training, transport, storage, finance and security.
It must be workable and enforceable.
It must: provide guidelines for the treaty's full, clear implementation; ensure transparency—including full annual reports of national arms transfers; have an effective mechanism to monitor compliance; ensure accountability—with provisions for adjudication, dispute settlement and sanctions; include a comprehensive framework for international cooperation and assistance.

That last line in red could be read to allow say a Bengasi peace keeping force to toss you home, trash your possessions, and sexually assault your wife while searching for an illegal 45/70 Government rifle or ammo.

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/8/2/obama_admin_helps_undermine_un_arms

This treaty is what President Obama was talking about when he begged Vladimir Putting for forbearance so Obama could have more FLEXIBILITY after the November 6th elections.  If he wins this electionhe will destroy the US Constitution which he says is a collection of nothing but NEGITIVE rights.. 

You may view the failure of the Russian American Arms treaty as a victory but I must ask, "A VICTORY FOR WHO?"  It is certainly not a victory for a free people or for Americans because our President seems to be on board this treaty as soon as it can’t harm his reelection bid.  I would appreciate feed back from the above video.  As well as the Obama audio and video tape links below.

Obama Constitution Negative Liberties.flv
 

Reconsile this y'all

Obama Caught "On Mic" Off Mic with Russian President !






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« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2012, 10:47:51 PM »

As soon as Yugoslavian and other inexpensive imported ammo is banned, it will be child's' play for an Obama Ammo Czar to kill domestic production like Obama killed domestic oil and gas production on Federal Government land.

Barrack H. Obama has surely taken the famous Communist folksinger, Woody Guthrie's lyrics to heart. 

In Obama's mind "THIS LAND IS YOUR LAND", to do with as Barrack H. Obama desires that is.
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« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2012, 04:57:28 PM »

I don't know where you get your info, but my son is a lifetime member and is also the only family member who is an NRA member.

As for a fully auto firearm, it has always been my understanding that a federal license was required to own one. Please show me otherwise.


Requirements have changed since my Grandfather bought my membership in the 70s.. They ended the Life membership up until 2011... than re-instituted it with new requirements as I have outlined.

Federal registration is required. You used to need a class 3 license but that changed...You have to have your Sheriff sign off on it and pay 200.00 http://www.atf.gov/firearms/guides/identification-of-nfa-firearms.html#bazooka
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« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2012, 08:50:16 PM »

i, too, am a lifetime member. 

that arms treaty has been a UN wet dream for a long time.  details on implementation are TBD.  that seems to be a theme with loony leftist legislation and treaties.  pass it to find out what's in it......

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« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2012, 11:07:13 PM »

If you haven’t seen the documentary "2016: Obama's America" ….it’s a must see to fully understand what’s at stake with this election.

http://2016themovie.com/
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« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2012, 12:20:13 AM »

 I'll have to try and keep the peace at my house...My wifes an Obama delegate and I support Romney...But, like Ive been saying the last 6 months, we'll all still be bitchin' about our adminstration! its the way we are...we have no choice and no voice.....I hope I'll be complaining about Romney tho instead of Barry!..Lol!
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« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2012, 04:31:19 PM »

apparently we will be talking about the riots. inner city obama supporters plan to riot and burn the hood down. it will be nice to sit back and watch them burn their neighborhoods. can't wait to watch it unfold

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« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2012, 04:53:32 PM »

john, have i not converted your wife yet?   evil
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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

 Alexis de Tocqueville
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« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2012, 06:48:37 PM »

Well John,
you could give us all lessons on catching the big fish!!!  Smiley
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« Reply #30 on: October 14, 2012, 10:26:41 PM »

... we will be talking about the riots...

I was in the gun store Monday of last week and they were selling US style ammo cans with 150 rounds of 00 buckshot per can by the pallet load.  There is not ONE jurisdiction within a hundred miles of there were you can legally hunt deer with dogs and buckshot.  This buckshot ammo was not there when I went to stock up on No. 4 buckshot ammo and dog food two weeks ago.

Besides, this gun store was busier than an Olive Garden on Columbus day.  There must have been 20 clerks in a space smaller than the kitchen of a McDonald's.  People are either frightened or mad or both.

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« Reply #31 on: October 14, 2012, 10:34:47 PM »

Rent yourself “Bowling for Columbine” by Michael Moore if you want to know why…......
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« Reply #32 on: October 14, 2012, 11:34:38 PM »

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an unimpeachable source!!
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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

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« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2012, 09:53:11 AM »

... we will be talking about the riots...

I was in the gun store Monday of last week and they were selling US style ammo cans with 150 rounds of 00 buckshot per can by the pallet load.  There is not ONE jurisdiction within a hundred miles of there were you can legally hunt deer with dogs and buckshot.  This buckshot ammo was not there when I went to stock up on No. 4 buckshot ammo and dog food two weeks ago.

Besides, this gun store was busier than an Olive Garden on Columbus day.  There must have been 20 clerks in a space smaller than the kitchen of a McDonald's.  People are either frightened or mad or both.


Yea, if Obama wants to brag on saving an industry the firearms business is the one instead of the car industry cause the govt. hasn't given them billions we want get back.
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« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2012, 01:18:45 AM »

Mentioning the Auto Industry made me think about this.

http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2009/07/survey-favorable-views-of-ford-not-gm-or-chrysler.html
Government Motors and Chrysler receive new low opinion ratings from the American people.  Meanwhile Ford who declined to take Obama's Socialist buyout is surging in the minds of American car buyers.  There has got to be a reason.

http://www.autospies.com/news/Battery-Plant-Hailed-By-Obama-In-2010-Furloughs-Workers-After-Failing-To-Produce-A-Single-Battery-72824/


A Michigan battery factory that has received over $200,000,000 in local and federal tax breaks or direct payments, subsidies, and loan guarantees has laid all its workers off.  What makes it so bad is that this Michigan battery factory is one of those venues where 2 years ago the President crowed at his teleprompter about his job creating ability. 

The factory went tummy up despite also benefiting from a direct payment from the Obama Administration to every Chevy Volt buyer or leasee of an additional $7,500 tax credit or refund on each and every one of the 23,000 Chevy Volts begged, borrowed, stolen or bought from GM.  It not only shows that you can’t give Chevy Volts away, it also proves that you also can‘t pay consumers to take these Turkeys off of Government Motors’ hands.
This is fast approaching a half a Billion more dollars down the Government Motors Green rat hole.  And guess what?  There has not been even ONE usable Chevy Volt Battery produced there yet. 

I guess we should be thankful for small miracles; at least they haven't contaminated the property or worn the factory out by MAKING anything yet.

It looks more and more every day that the only greedy ones who are not paying their fair share of taxes are the green jobs section of the econemy.  Not only are they a net consumer of tax dollars, they also don't pay taxes because they can't turn a dollar with a pitchfork.  The green energy scam reminds me more of John Candy's Uncle Buck than Henry Ford.
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« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2012, 02:25:31 AM »

It’s too bad our beeks were asleep at the wheel during the GW Bush generated financial crisis and didn’t grasp REALITY.  The ONLY reason Ford didn’t join GM and Chrysler in Obama’s “socialist buyout” (as y’all call it) is greed.  The Ford Motor company is controlled by the Ford Family because they own a majority of the voting shares.  As long as the family has majority shares of the preferred stock, they control the company.  

In Bankruptcy, all the old stock holders are WIPED out.  If Ford had accepted a bailout, the Ford Family control of the company and the family fortune would have been wiped out.  Do you honestly think the Ford Family would VOTE to get wiped out?

GM and Chrysler aren’t controlled by old family money, and hence they chose the path that was the wisest for their survival.  Actually the biggest holder in Chrysler at the time was VP Quayle’s hedge fund.  Hmmm, funny how he got bailed out too……  

Ford would have gone under without the same concessions the UAW was forced to gave GM and Chrysler in bankruptcy.    

My prediction:  Kingbee will be the BEGGING General Motors for a Volt when Israel strikes Iran and gasoline goes to $10 a gallon.
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« Reply #36 on: October 16, 2012, 02:45:09 AM »

...In Bankruptcy, the ...stock holders are WIPED out.  If Ford had accepted a bailout, the Ford Family ...family ...would have been wiped out...    

My prediction:  Kingbee will be the BEGGING General Motors for a Volt when Israel strikes Iran and gasoline goes to $10 a gallon.


Why then would you vote for a candidate for President of the United States who is proposing to wipe YOU out.  It makes no sense!!

What good will a Chevy Volt do anyone?  You forget my dear BlueBee that the President promised us he would make our "[E]lectric rates necessarily soar..."

In that case how are you proposing that we recharge our Chevy Volts, tie a string to the radio "aerial" and fly a kite in a thunder storm?  rolleyes
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« Reply #37 on: October 16, 2012, 02:48:06 AM »

Maybe power them with hot air  grin
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« Reply #38 on: October 16, 2012, 04:11:27 AM »

This is a more realistic power source for the Government Motors car of the future.
You also must remember that this is the first "Automobile" that our President had any experience with.
http://people.hofstra.edu/geotrans/eng/ch3en/conc3en/rickshaw.html

Well that will kill several birds with one stone, Michelle's obesity campaign, high oil prices, unemployment, and Global Warming to name a few.  Unfortunately I don't see any room for a union pay scale making Rickshaws and Becaks, do you?
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« Reply #39 on: October 16, 2012, 11:12:29 PM »

no conversion for janelle, and i cant catch any fish lately either....However, I do have a box of bees that dont want to kill me like the others do!
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