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janislizardi
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« on: August 27, 2013, 09:52:57 PM »

I installed a new package of bee on a brand new hive in May '13 in Texas. Progress was solid until we had a tornado nearby and was no longer able to find the queen. I saw some queen caps so I suspected they had replaced the queen and I have confirmed that. I spotted her last Sunday.
Q1: why would my bees replace the original queen? She was doing fine to me
Q2: should I be concerned with the new queen since she is not from controlled queen rearing? I do not the quality of the drones that matted with her.
Q3: hive is thriving, should I just leave it alone?



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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2013, 10:17:59 PM »

Janis, just be happy that you have a laying queen this late in the season. They normally do a better job than us beekeepers at sorting things out anyway. Welcome to Beemaster.
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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2013, 10:46:58 PM »

if 2 is true, you answered 3 for yourself.  why would you mess with success?

there are not to many of us who go with "controlled queen rearing"  anymore.  nature seems to do a fine job.
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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2013, 11:08:25 PM »

Ditto above. I like mutts better than buying queens. My bought queen or her daughter, has the largest mite drop of all of my hives. Most of the mutts don't drop mites, most of the time.
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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2013, 12:35:41 AM »

Thanks everyone for the reassurance. I am
Happy with my hive progress but I am full of questions smiley as I am new to the forum and beekeeping smiley
I will stick to nature!


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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2013, 12:37:17 AM »

Here she is! Enjoy


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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2013, 12:39:02 AM »


A other try on the picture. Sorry. I am new to this app. 


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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2013, 12:41:49 AM »

I hope to get the right picture this time.


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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2013, 08:00:23 AM »

Out of 3 hives I started this year with packages, the one that for some reason didn't like their queen & requeened their selves is going the strongest.  I've decided the bees know the best!  And it looks like yours are doing great!
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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2013, 10:20:27 AM »

>Q1: why would my bees replace the original queen? She was doing fine to me

But not to them.  She may be making too little pheromones.

>Q2: should I be concerned with the new queen since she is not from controlled queen rearing? I do not the quality of the drones that matted with her.

If it were me, I would have disposed of the package queen myself, if they didn't do it for me, and I would have let them raise a new queen and I HOPE she mates with all the local feral drones who are acclimatized to my area.  I have not had good luck overwintering package queens.

>Q3: hive is thriving, should I just leave it alone?

Of course.
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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2013, 11:14:18 AM »

Janis,
Your queen is visible in the lower left corner of those first 3 pictures, well at least her abdomen is.  grin
Your bees are doing fine. Enjoy.
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2013, 05:41:40 PM »

Jim, yes my queen was in the first 3 pics. So sorry I was not savy with this app to select the right picture. I wanted you show you the one picture where she was front and center.

Michael, thank you for your input. I find very interesting that you would rather have the bees raise their own queen. I read over and over about how beekeepers requeen every year or two with a queen of their choice. This is great insight you give me as I continue my reading and learning I will seek for natural methods.


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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2013, 05:44:47 PM »


She is definitely laying well smiley
Bees make me so happy!!!
Thanks everyone


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