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« on: July 23, 2012, 10:47:27 PM »

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Guys here say  that odd beekeeping thing depends on heat ang drought.

I cannot link the map but it tells that heat variation is from 60 F to 100 F.
What it means, I do not know.

Finland is quite big country in Europe. However merely Texas is size of 3 Finland.

So a sentence "we here in USA..." makes no sense.  We are here 6 million people and you have 300 mil.

I hope that "international" does not mean homeyard to US folks.

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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2012, 11:12:25 PM »

ur engrish sucks   grin
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2012, 11:18:31 PM »

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those hot bees will have you steppin and a fetchin like your heads on fire and your @ss is a catchin!!!

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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2012, 06:27:15 AM »

Please refrain from belittling people for language skills. Finsky (from Finland) handles the English better as a second language than a lot of people do as a first language.
I'm not sure if this a jab at Finsky or not,but for now I'll assume the latter and let it go at that.

Perhaps a refresher here:
http://forum.beemaster.com/index.php/board,97.0.html
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2012, 10:44:14 AM »

His English is a LOT better than my Finnish, and I lived amongst a lot of their kin in northern MN.
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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2012, 11:33:59 AM »

Yep, Finski, that's what I tried to get across in our recent discussion on feral stock. The American continent is huge with a broad range of climatic conditions. How did we ever get the idea that our bees should be a one size fits all breed.
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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2012, 11:54:45 AM »

ur engrish sucks

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  How many languages can you speak or writer or read Huh



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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2012, 01:13:05 PM »

How did we ever get the idea that our bees should be a one size fits all breed.

Isn't that exactly what the current commercial queen/package market tries to do though? A one size fits all bee instead of a bee that has been tried and tested in the local climate?
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2012, 02:20:22 PM »

Isn't that exactly what the current commercial queen/package market tries to do though? A one size fits all bee instead of a bee that has been tried and tested in the local climate?

IMHO

  The current commercial queen/package are just tyring to stray open.


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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2012, 12:18:57 AM »

**What it means, I do not know.**

 it means there is a lot of area that cant suport good forage for bees

**We are here 6 million people and you have 300 mil.**

 yes but i only count the beehives- Wink  RDY-B
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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2012, 01:00:29 AM »

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I toggle my mobile on soffa and I am not worried about my language. It is what it is.
Sometimes I am quite tired.
I have picked billberries in hot woods 100 litres and sold them. 3,5  euros a litre.
Next 100 litre orders are in.

in good place I pick 30 litres in 2 hours.

More I am worried about carbage which you write in this forum ecery day.
Beekeeping knowledge sucks somewhere!




Best berry places are in cutted areas where rotten twiggs give nutritions to plants

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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2012, 01:04:09 AM »


 yes but i only count the beehives- Wink  RDY-B

I have not counted even my hives. I really don't know.

I have bottoms and roofs for 30 and they has been  finish long time ago.
I have not counted my yeard sites  either.
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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2012, 06:23:01 AM »

Well, Finski, now you know why so may American beekeepers always fall back on the line..."All beekeeping is local"...

The US is pretty large with so many different growing zones. Heck, the country spans 4 time zones. You can easily see how it's even difficult for beeks in the same state to give advice to others in the same state. Just look at Florida, for example. Some places have no real winter (although after last couple of years that's debatable) while others do see some freezing temps. Also have many states that have HUGE swings in temps. Midwest, deep freezes with hot, hot temps possible in summer. Lots of variance and diversity in both climate and people as well as beekeeping methods.  Wink
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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2012, 09:18:13 AM »

Well, Finski, now you know why so may American beekeepers always fall back on the line..."All beekeeping is local"...



I have studied geography in university. I have red that you have quick weather changes because you do not have mountains or barricades against air movements in South - north direction. I know too about your sea streams.

What you have is short winter compared to Alaska and to Finland.
But the most bad thing is (I suppose) hard winds and hurricanes. We have not much storm here.
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I live quite near seacost and it makes the weather mild as long as sea has no ice cover.


However, if we do not use here insulated boxes, bees cannot survive because they use too much food.

Our winter is harsh and it does not forgive anything.It is better to learn at once or you do not have hives in spring

It is funny to read how Californian beeks give advices to Canadian beeks that they need not insulation.


The most stupid idea what I have read in forums is that "cold does not kill but moisture kills".

We have a song " a spirit droplet does not kill and you cannot sink into bucket" but however alcohol kills men in work age than in another country in western Europe.
And now alcohol is killing more and more women.

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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2012, 08:19:48 PM »

  I hope you dont spend all your belliberie money on spirit dropletes- laugh
 get back to your bees-they are the only thing to make you smile-leave the berries for the kids- cool RDY-B
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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2012, 11:59:02 PM »

 I hope you dont spend all your belliberie money on spirit dropletes- laugh
 get back to your bees-they are the only thing to make you smile-leave the berries for the kids- cool RDY-B


Billberry is our wild blueberry variety. It covers the forest surfaces.

The berry weight  is 0.5 g

I get 700 euros = 850 US$ when I sell the orders.
Kilo price is the same as with honey.

Picking berries is not children job.


Blooming billberry


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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2012, 09:32:04 PM »

I was talking to someone about billberries last weekend as we were picking blueberries up in northern Minnesota. The old timers used those pickers that you posted a pic of, but they strip the green, unripe berries too so they quickly fell out of fashion.

You are correct that picking is not for the weak. I have done it since I was a child. It is always hot, dry and buggy. The stumps and fallen logs make walking treacherous. But that is part of the draw for me! I like a hard picking day followed by a hot wood-fired sauna and a jump in the lake.

The blueberries were spread thin but I managed to pick a couple gallons. I could never sell those precious morsels. They sustain my blueberry muffin habit for a year. Nothing compares to a wild blueberry.
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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2012, 12:58:00 AM »

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We have a sad episode going here.
Berry pickers come from Thailand with aroplane. They are thousands.
But we are jellows what they do.

Customer price  is about  5-7 euros per litre.
Stock byer pays 1,5 euros.
The picker gets perhaps 50 cents.

They do 16 hours days to earn their living and pay back the airplane ticket.

This is sad. The price of berries rises 10 fold compared picker price to customer price.
Somebody takes the real money from chain.
Unemployed guys here do not go to woods but they are ready stop that berry picking.

Some  Vietnamies and so have organized the whole berry picking-customer selling system but I do not know honest the group working is.  berry picking is taxfree.
Mostly the hardest workers get smallest payment.
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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2012, 01:13:33 AM »

Sounds like Finland is copying the good ole USA!  Importing cheap labor to pick our food.

I haven't ever seen a billberry  Sad
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« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2012, 01:31:37 AM »


**Some  Vietnamies and so have organized the whole berry picking-customer selling system but I do not know honest the group working is.  berry picking is taxfree.
Mostly the hardest workers get smallest payment.**

 who owns the land the berries grow on -is it open space for anyone to rome about and pick berries- huh RDY-B
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