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« on: July 14, 2012, 12:15:50 PM »

I know this horse has been beaten, but it was brought up at our bee club meeting.  Some one said that they were mixing whey with their syrup and feeding it to the bees.  The bees were reported to be doing well and growing off this mix.  I was just wondering y'alls opinion and or feedback.
I ask because I have a surplus of when that has expired but has been stored in a cool dry place.
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2012, 02:10:43 PM »

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I am accustomed very well in potein feeding  but I have no seen that simple  protein recipe.

Of course beeks are satisfied what they do,. But not good that way.
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2012, 07:29:57 AM »

Are they doing well and growing despite feeding the whey? Perhaps they have hives they have not fed whey to that the comparison can be made.
If I eat healthy every day and have a heart attack and my friend eats candy every day and no heart attack,perhaps it could be said I should have eaten candy everyday.
 Don't throw every supplement and cure at your bees just because it did something for someone else.Perhaps their bees were lacking something,perhaps they would have done just as  well without the whey.
A healthy colony will expand and contract with flows and seasons.
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2012, 12:35:55 AM »

Jas, I also have a lot of expired whey I was planning to feed to my bees this spring.  However we had an early spring with lots of pollen sources and good flying weather so I didnít try it.  The bees really expanded great off the natural stuff this spring.  Isnít Texas getting rain this summer?  Rain usually = pollen around here.  Hopefully Iíll try some whey next spring.
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2012, 01:12:04 AM »

"Hopefully Iíll try some whey next spring."

No, hopefully you dont need to try it next year either!
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2012, 05:28:10 AM »

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I have deleveloped pollen patty recipe 8 years. The pearl in the grown this spring  was a hive which had 20 frames brood in case when willow had bloomed 2 weeks.
Earlier when willow started to bloom one hive had 15 frames brood.

USA and Austaralia have reseached  much bee nutrition . Firts comparative laborotory tests published in USA 1977. 

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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2012, 05:16:34 PM »

I understand it may not be the best and that there is better.  I was just wanting to utilize stuff I had on hand.  I am in Texas west of Fort Worth.  We do not always have a steady supply of fresh pollen for the bess, it can and often does stop raining for extended periods of time.  When that happens I want to feed the girls to keep them going so that our short fall flow is not missed.
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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2012, 07:55:53 PM »

Save the whey for the chocolate protein shakes.   Bees know what they are doing.   Something to think about.  If you feed them all summer, they get their numbers way up high.  By late fall, they have eaten all the honey in the hive due to the large population in fall.
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2012, 09:20:50 PM »

Good point Allen.
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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2012, 11:44:39 PM »

I understand it may not be the best and that there is better.  I was just wanting to utilize stuff I had on hand.  I am in Texas west of Fort Worth.  We do not always have a steady supply of fresh pollen for the bess, it can and often does stop raining for extended periods of time.  When that happens I want to feed the girls to keep them going so that our short fall flow is not missed.

if you want, you do it.

In forums I may see every day "I have heard". Instead of proper knowledge heard is nice!

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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2012, 03:25:32 AM »

I have deleveloped pollen patty recipe 8 years. The pearl in the grown this spring  was a hive which had 20 frames brood in case when willow had bloomed 2 weeks.
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How you prepare your pollen patties? I always prepare with 6 cups powdered sugar/1,5 cup frozen pollen/1 cup honey and water.

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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2012, 10:59:34 PM »

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I have written the recipe many times here.

Basic material is yeast+soya+pollen.pollen is too expencive to use alone.

To feed 20 frames brood needs 20 frames pollen . That is a huge amount.
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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2012, 06:12:59 AM »

Thanks for your kindly response.
Do you use granulated dry bakery yeast or wet molded bakery yeast?
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« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2012, 12:03:25 AM »

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Do you use granulated dry bakery yeast or wet molded bakery yeast?

That would be Brewer's yeast, the end result of brewing beer.  It's then dried and processed to be used as a supplement for health food advocates.  Packaged yeast, the activated kind for making bread, is simply too expensive to use for this.

You might find brewer's yeast as an animal feed, I haven't found a good source and go to the local "muscle building hobby" store (GNC) to get a pound (.9Kg) for around 13 USD.

I haven't needed to put my protein on the bees this year though we've had weather that in more common to Phoenix AZ in the summer.  Either they don't like what I've been keeping in the freezer, or they have another source.
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« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2012, 11:44:48 AM »

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It is same what yeast you use. I happened to get cheap dry baker yeast.
You may use dry, moist or what ever yeast.  that  is not the point.

Second point is, don't give the bees the stuff if you happen to get something to your hands.

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