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Offline salvo

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Re: Walter T. Kelley F-style Frames
« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2013, 12:07:08 AM »
Hi Folks,

Junior here. I'm all foundationless except for the frames that came with my first year nucs. Year one, 2011, with two nucs, was not that difficult. I kept using the original built out frames as guides. I was prety much prepared for the medium supers with no built out guides.

I use a grooved top bar frame, slat turned on side, glued and stapled. This year I'm using a small 3 x 1.5 patch of foundation stapled to my top bar, just to "sharpen the edge" that the bees cling to. My new packages really built those frames out fast,... and purty too.

As has been stated, talk to your bees. Most of them are willing to listen. They'll cut you some slack because you gave them a nice home.

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Re: Walter T. Kelley F-style Frames
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2013, 07:14:46 PM »
I started a hive last year foundation less using Popsicle stick comb guides and no drawn comb. I was lucky no cross comb. I did take a quick peak after a few days. I could correct any problem early. The bars were kept tight together and I affixed my queen cage inside a frame instead of between them. And removed it promptly when the queen was released.

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Re: Walter T. Kelley F-style Frames
« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2013, 08:26:13 AM »
My first year I used the kelly F-style frames. In one hive the bees started  the comb to one side of the v-shaped comb guide. It was all straight but offset from center.  That made it very hard to inspect. 

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Re: Walter T. Kelley F-style Frames
« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2013, 08:49:45 AM »
My first year I used the kelly F-style frames. In one hive the bees started  the comb to one side of the v-shaped comb guide. It was all straight but offset from center.  That made it very hard to inspect. 

You'll hear/see this a lot;  One 'wonkey' frame leads to another.  Addressing it immediately upon noticing it is the best approach IMO.   The sooner you correct wonkey comb the better.   

If no drawn comb frames are available there's nothing wrong with using a few frames with foundation to help get things started and straight.  Just replace them when they hatch out with empties (foundationless), while increasing your stock of drawn comb by doing so regularly.
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Re: Walter T. Kelley F-style Frames
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2014, 12:48:28 PM »
we have been wiring are frames ,two across and three down ,on mid. and 3 by on brood     
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Re: Walter T. Kelley F-style Frames
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2014, 01:00:48 PM »
that's 3 by 3 on brood , it help's on extacting too.it stop the cavering and about all the cross combing and you can add a little foundation on the wire with your embedder 
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